Is there a way to stop revit from seeing linked model when applying tags?

Is there a way to stop revit from seeing linked model when applying tags?

MuirEng
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Is there a way to stop revit from seeing linked model when applying tags?

MuirEng
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Posting title says it all I think. Revit drives me nuts when it tries to apply a tag to a linked model element (wall, floor, etc) instead of seeing the item I have placed down in my model.

The linked model is pinned and select pinned element and select link controls are both disabled. There really should be an option "Do not apply tag linked elements". If there is no way to control this then I'll put in an idea but surely someone must have done that by now? 

Brian Muir, P.Eng, Muir Engineering
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iainsavage
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Is this when using category specific tags or multi-category tags?

 

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MuirEng
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when using the TG command. The background model becomes active as a tag option and I want Revit to ignore the background completely. Sometimes I just enable temporary view proprities and shut off the background completely during tagging stage but i think I should not have to do this. 

Brian Muir, P.Eng, Muir Engineering
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iainsavage
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Okay but what are you tagging?

If, for example, you are tagging pipes with a Pipe Tag then it would only find objects in the link if they are pipes, so generally I haven't really found this to be a problem because the linked files rarely contain families of the same categories as those in my host model which I am trying to tag.

To answer your initial question though, the only way that I can think of stopping the link being found when tagging is as you are doing i.e. temporarily turning off its visibility.

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MuirEng
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my tagging operation starts with the TG shortcut "tag general" and then I point at what I want to tag. Perhaps I can adjust my process to bring up the specific tag for the item of interest first, I'll try that next time I am tagging. Like you my linked file does not contain same elements as the ones I want to tag. Thanks for the idea. 

 

Brian Muir, P.Eng, Muir Engineering
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RSomppi
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The way to control this is to ensure that the element you want to tag is highlighted. Trying to use a category specific tag from the project browser does not help. It is still the tag by category command and a tag for the category of the selected element is used.

 

I would suggest looking for an existing idea as I'm sure there are others who have trouble selecting the desired element.

 

Good luck, I wouldn't mind category specific tagging being a new feature. Don't ask me to vote for it though. I try to stay away from the Ideas forum.

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RLY_15
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Only way I'm aware of is to temporarily turn off visibility on linked model elements, get your tags/leaders started, and then turn them back on to do whitespace adjustment.

 

For tagging things like duct/pipe that may not necessarily require leader lines I've opted to just have a toggle-able filter that hides stuff meeting specific conditions (pipe too small to hold the text), and then use the Tag All command on the categories of interest.

 

I'll also use Dynamo scripts for more precise conditional tagging.

 

 

But yeah....basically anything other than what you're specifically hoping exists (tagging lockout on elements not toggled to be selectable via the selection palette). It's not a bad idea to recommend, though I suspect you'll get an equal number of detractors that don't want to manage the extra steps of toggling to grab linked items.

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MuirEng
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Thanks for the advice. I've given up on submitting ideas as well. Nothing I suggest or vote for ever gets implemented unless the architects also want it. 

I guess the workaround is to enable temporary view properties and shut down the linked in model, then tag. Pretty lame. 

by the way, this TG problem has a spin off benefit! You can use it as a query. "TG" point at the revit model and it will tell you what class you are lookng at. Is the item blocking your view "furniture", or "casework", or "specialty equipement"?Now you can find out easily!


Brian Muir, P.Eng, Muir Engineering
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