Disappearing Dims!

[Anonymous]

Please help!

I am using REVIT 2018 and applying dims to my MEP services on a linked CAD drawing. once I have applied all dims, I move to the next sheet but when I go back, either one or two of the strings have gone! They are not hidden or outside of the annotation crop.

I am having to dim-up and print for each sheet but this will get tedious very quickly! 

Any advice?

[Anonymous]

Looking into it further, the dims that disappear are the ones with an adjoining plot, so the crop regions were crossing. Correcting this has made no difference, is there a minimum distance that two regions need to be so they don't interfere? 

[iainsavage]

Does the crop region have annotation crop activated?

Some screenshots or an upload of part of the model would help.

[Anonymous]

Yes the annotation crop is activated but with sufficient space to view. 

The issue is that i have applied dims to the party wall side on more than one occasion, and they simply disappear;

The image below is a corner plot with 2 party walls, and both have gone;

On the main floorplan, it not every party wall that is affected, the one below is ok but was drawn the same way;

Is this a bug or something i am doing?

[RobDraw]

Can you please point out the missing dimensions?

[Anonymous]

Hi Rob, in the second image, you can see dims to the top, bottom and to the left. i had also applied them to the right but as this is a party wall, as soon as i apply dims to the neighbouring plot, they are automatically removed! 

Ok, so i have just reapplied them to the right;

now i go to the plot to the right (which currently has none to the left);

now i apply the dims for this plot;

if i now go back to the previous plot, the dims have gone;

[RobDraw]

I'm having trouble following you and switching back and forth between images. I should have asked for you to point them out diagramatically.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your time on this Rob, its doing me in!

So basically i have a block of 4 flats sharing party walls shown below in orange;

When i apply dims on drawing A (to the right), and dims to drawing B (to the left) which is the shared party wall they seem to cancel each other out and neither show!

[RobDraw]

I'm getting tired of switching back and forth trying to figure out what is missing. I don't have time for this. PLEASE show me where the missing dims should be.

[Anonymous]

its clear what is missing - the whole string of dims!

i was trying to provide you with as much information as i could as otherwise you would say there is not enough. 

Please just look at the string of 4 images; the first image shows the dims i just added (to the right and still highlighted)

Now go to image 4 and that whole row is not there! Its not a single dim that is missing, its the whole string!

[RobDraw]

I wouldn't be asking if it were clear.

BTW, I had to look up party wall. I'm not wasting any more time with you. I asked you to make it easier for me and you berate me.

Good luck!

[Mahmoud.Ziedan]

@Anonymous please place a cloud or anything to let us know this party wall that is missing

[RobDraw]

He doesn't want to do that. He says it's obvious. 

[Anonymous]

Hi Mahmoud, its not that i dont want to, but i thought it was pretty clear when comparing the two images which dims were missing! (is it me?) i have circled them and attached as requested.

Basically, i add dims to a sheet, move to the next sheet and add dims, but when i go back to the previous sheet, the dims which have been applied to the shared/party (terminology difference i believe) wall have disappeared on both sheets but only on the shared/party wall side, the other three walls are shown ok?

any help would be appreciated, if you need more info let me know but i dont want to put you out!

[RobDraw]

You need to remember that you have your head around what you're doing. Someone not familiar with your project needs to get oriented. What's obvious to you is not to someone else. If you want someone to help you out and they ask a question, just answer it, even if it seems obvious. 

[iainsavage]

I’m replying to part 6 of your thread and I get what your saying but have no explanation for why/how this could occur.

Are the four views independent views or are they dependants of a master?

If they are independent views then annotations should be completely independent on every view.
If they are dependant views then the text/tags/dims are common to the master view and you should just be seeing a cropped portion of the master plan and in the master you would see the dimensions for all four views probably overlapping at the view boundaries.

Would you be able to upload your model so that I can test it myself?

[Anonymous]

https://we.tl/t-PvLYev8jBd 

Thanks Iain, the views are duplicated as dependants of the first floor plan, i have attached a link for you to review - i am using REVIT 2018.3.3 FYI.

The confusing thing is that both sets of dims (that would overlap in the mater floorplan) are both gone.

I am going to create a copy any use 2020 to see if it still occurs too.

[iainsavage]

I couldn't reproduce the problem that you're experiencing, see below. Can't send you the model because I'm using 2021.

Note that regarding the annotation crop, setting this in the parent view does not automatically set it in the dependent views, you need to set it individually for each of the views (BUT this doesn't seem to be the reason that your dims are disappearing)

Also note that you can upload models directly to the forum when posting rather than using a transfer link

Sorry, this doesn't help much but its the best that I can do.

[Mahmoud.Ziedan]

@Anonymous Initially what @RobDraw was saying is that I believe you are very familiar with your project, but for us, we still do not know how it is segregated. I recommend if you were able to upload an image similar to this showing the issue. The funny thing that I thought at first the problem is with the dimming of a specific part of the view, then I realized that your problem is with dimensions lol):).

Usually, when we split the view into multiple views I recommend taking a mutual grid between every two views for easy mapping and an easy way to figure out the continuation(for sure you need to add view reference and match lines but for me, I used to make it this way). This comment is not related to your issue 🙂
Anyway as shown in your project that the dimensions that are shown in one view are hosted to walls that are shown in this view but not shown in the other view. I believe what is happening here is straightforward and totally logical.If a dimension is placed/hosted on an element that is not shown or hidden in a view, it will be invisible.
please let me know if I misunderstood something or I failed to figure out your problem.

Please If this helps you solve your issue mark it as a solution to help others.10x

[Mahmoud.Ziedan]

@Anonymous Also I realized that these dimensions are hosted to the ducts shown in the other view, not to the walls(also your architectural model is just a 2D CAD). So again what happening is very logical, because these dimensions are hosted on the ducts that are missing in the view.