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Creating Pipe Accessory that Inherits Pipe Properties so that they can be Associated with Shared Parameters

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mbender58HX2
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Creating Pipe Accessory that Inherits Pipe Properties so that they can be Associated with Shared Parameters

I want to make a pipe accessory that can inherit properties of the pipe it is connected to such as flow and pressure. For example, if I connected this accessory to a pipe that has a flow value of 10 GPM, I want that value to automatically appear in the accessory's parameters. The accessory I have been messing around with is able to inherit the pipe's system classification which is what I want for other properties but I can't figure out how to accomplish that.

 

Big picture is, I want to be able to associate these parameters with shared parameters on the pipe accessory so they can be automatically added to a schedule.

 

I am fairly new to Revit so if this is not making any sense, I apologize. And if you see a better solution that doesn't involve pipe accessories or anything, please share. Any help would be appreciated.

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iainsavage
in reply to: mbender58HX2

You should be able to add a shared parameter of flow type

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and then associate it to the Flow parameter of the connectors, set to Calculated.

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It should then automatically pick up the flow from the connected pipes.

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mbender58HX2
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Yes, thank you. This works perfectly. The only problem is this only works for the flow. I would like to be able to use other parameters as well such as pressure, but unfortunately there's no "flow configuration" or equivalent for other parameters. 

 

Either way, this certainly helps. I appreciate your assistance. 

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iainsavage
in reply to: mbender58HX2

The pressure parameter would be used to allocate the pressure loss caused by the accessory itself, not to read pressure from the pipe.

You associate a pressure loss method with the connector(s) and this is pushed out into the pipe system and will appear as a loss in the accessory in the pipe pressure loss report.

Normally I would only assign this loss factor to one connector because if you assign it to both of them then the values would add together and result in double the loss.

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Using the K-coefficient will adjust the pressure drop in the component with variable flow rates.

Specific Loss could be a fixed value or you could create your own formula and assign the value to a pressure parameter.

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Note: that K-Coefficient is NOT the same as Kv or Cv so if the manufacturer gives you those values you will need a formula to convert to either K-Coefficient (see the linked page) or a Specific Loss. Kv is defined as the flow in m3/h which creates 1 bar loss across the component and for any other condition pressure varies with the square of flow rate, so specific loss in bar = (actual flow (in m3/h)/Kv)^2. You can then change to other units if you wish.

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