Boxx Computer

[jtgel]

 Hi all,

 Anyone out there using a Boxx computer at all? If so what are your thoughts? I have read some real good things but as with anything new am a little unsure. Always worried that those reviews are written by the company themselves.

[www.TechRoom.bg]

BOXX is best workstation on the market. Its not all about components. BOXX offers overclock on your CPU and GPU and makes your workstation really powerfull. Especially for Revit ( Revit need higher freaquances on CPU for better working ) BOXX is best choise. They offer CPU overclocking to 5+ GHz.

[dgorsman]

Revit doesn't *need* overclocked hardware (higher frequency, etc.) - thats more for gamers and those who walk around with a measuring stick.    Most users won't see the difference and can do without the added risks.

Seriously though - Boxx products are a good choice for small-count orders.  If you need to source large numbers you should be looking at one of the bigger distributors like Dell or HP.

[www.TechRoom.bg]

Maybe you dont understand me right.

Revit can work with all configurations that have a minimal req ( click here ).

Ábout CPU frequency i'll avoid complicated conversations and fight for possitives and negatives. I was on negative side befor i get a boxx workstation. I have too hp z840 and i make my conclusions on real projects work. For me working on 3.5GHz CPU (2xE5-2637 in hp z840) vs working on 5.7GHz CPU i7 6700k (overclock in my i7 to 5.7GHz its extreamly high and req independence fluid cooling system. This overclock is not making by BOXX ) results are clear. Overclocked i7 works better and faster than dowble stock xeon when i create a model (Design MEP installations and architecture). When i go to render step than double xeon kicked out i7. 

All depends on what do you need ! For what you use revit? What is your work flow and more and more factors.

Yes overlocking is risk but BOXX overclock is not extream. They have good air cooling with custom cases.

Here and here have some good old discussions about revit hardware.

My opinion is that overclocking of mid range workstation without xeon CPU are good way to raise your machine capability. 

If your machine use xeon CPUs that is other discussion. I avoid overclocking my xeons. They are made to work non-stop and stable with shop configuration and overclocking may cause problems with overheating.

I'm agree with that BOXX are good for small count orders. Yes they are limited , they cant provide you lots of machines for small amount of time. 

HP Dell and Lenovo are huge companies and they have amaizing products.

I'll say it again - all depends on personal needs !

Its not a advertisement of BOXX. I think that they products have good quality but for high price. 

PP: I'm not a gamer and i'm not walking around with a measuring stick.

[JKspace424]

This post is old but hopefully people thinks twice about getting this over priced computer which they claim to configure to the professional.  I have a Boxx laptop which I have never been happy about.  Boxx is completely oblivious to what an architectural student needs.  You can get a far superior laptop/computer built for a gamer which will cost less this the junk Boxx sells.  Revit needs a lot of power.  I dont know much about overclocking, but I finally got a laptop built for a gamer, and now Revit works well.  The specs that Autodesk suggests for Revit is the minimum configurations but not for daily optimal Revit use.

[HVAC-Novice]

Lol, they sell a $3,500 desktop I could built with the same components for $1K. In addition they equip it with slow RAM (4800 MHz instead of the common 6000 MHz). 

They also don't tell you what MB, PSU etc. they use. So imagine it is the cheapest stuff. 

I know this is an old thread. But over-clocking in the old scheme is dead in 2024. Nowadays CPUs are binned so tightly that the manufacturer already unlocks them to almost maximum possible frequency. For AMD you enable "PBO" and it will automatically clock to the maximum. That is standard on all AMD CPUs (and most motherboards). There is very little potential for manual overclocking (and that also at the cost of stability). Nothing special to pay 3 times the cost. 

I think that is a worse value than BIM box. 

[JKspace424]

I wish there had been more info on this at the time I bought Boxx.  I still dont think there's enough information out there about what kind of computer to buy for Revit/other 3D softwares.  This is why I thought to post to this old thread to get some dialogue going about this and keep people in the know.  Boxx is a scam.  They know most of us havent a clue about computers and so they tell you rubbish to sell their scam product.

[HVAC-Novice]

The official Revit hardware recommendations don't help at all. Most cheap computers from 5-10 years ago will meet those. Unfortunately, managers who never use Revit, will use those official hardware recommendations....

For specifics you can go to a computer forum like linustechtips. But in general something like an AMD 7700X, 32-64GB of RAM (6000MHz, CL 30), and an Nvidia 4070 with 12+ GB VRAM and a fast SSD (Samsung 980Pro or so) will give you a PC that runs circles around most of the pre-built and will be good for the next few years. Need a good cooler, good Motherboard with good VRM and a case with good ventilation (like a Fractal Torrent compact) and a reputable PSU (don't skimp on PSU!). Or get the equivalent with Xeon or threadripper (both will be more costly)

A good system integrator should be able to give you something like that. should be less than BOXX. 

It really isn't that complicated and BOXX and BimBox use the exact same parts (often no-name versions) of what you can buy. They basically just are assemblers/system integrators and marketing people. Anyone can order parts and replicate (and improve!) what they offer. 

[ToanDN]

My quick and easy choice is a gaming computer with more RAM (64GB), more SSD space (4TB), Windows 11 pro instead of Home.  I am mobile now and here is the one I am currently using (yes you could turn off the RGB if you are embarrassed).  Those Boxx things are overrated and overpriced.

[RLY_15]

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@ToanDN wrote:

 (yes you could turn off the RGB if you are embarrassed)

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Personally I'm a fan of the chroma ripple effect (when you hit a key the colors ripple outwards).

Whatever gets the work done easier/faster/less stressfully.

[HVAC-Novice]

and a desktop will be even cheaper. and assuming most companies will use servers to store data, one wouldn't need a 4TB SSD. 

those "specially made for CAD or BIM" desktops are made for people who don't know computers and think that marketing company actually makes a specific CPU and GPU for CAD/BIM. In reality they just use off-the shelf components anyone could order off Amazon. (this only applies to desktops, since laptops are integrated and you can't really build your own)