A few beginner Revit questions

johan.degreef
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A few beginner Revit questions

johan.degreef
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We do waste water plants, so it is buildings, concrete tanks, steel platform and (curved) stairs, piping, pump skids, lots of 3rd party equipement (step files) etc. We now do it all in Inventor.

 

1. If you buy Revit, you have the architectural, MEP, and strucure options, So is it 1 package or is it 3 buys? Which one do we need for the things explained here?

2. Is it possible to make all buidings, concrete tanks, steel platforms and stairs in Revit, import the model into Inventor, and there do all the piping, and skids...? Once the revit model is placed into Inventor, it is there to stay. Can you just open the Revit model in Revit modify it, and all modifications are reflected in Inventor without doing any further steps? Is there a link that keeps the Revit model up to date without any hassle?

 

Thanks, Johan

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L.Maas
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Revit is one package and includes architecture, structure and MEP.

It is possble to link Revit into Inventor and has improved with the last version 2021.

Maybe better to ask in the Inventor forums how those people experience this functionality

 

You also should ask yourself what probelem are you trying to solve? Inventor and Revit in general are not really overlapping software.

The only partially overlap. Revit is geared to (large) buildings with more or less volumetric geometry, while invetor is to model smaller items with all nuts and bolts. So in most cases there is only a small overlap. So what are you trying to solve?

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johan.degreef
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@L.Maas 

What problem do I try to solve.

 

Commercial:

As a first step we need a commercial drawing to present our solution to the client. Now we draw simple hollowed rectangle blocks to represent a buildings, and put same kind of rectangle blocks inside to represent eaquipement. If it would look something more like this, it would be nicer, but we need to be able to quickly layout an idea and afterwards easy to modify building sizes, door, entrance gates, etc

 

REVIT-BUILDING-FLOORPLAN.jpgKnipsel.JPG

 

For technical detailed plans.

We continue do the work inside those simple rectangular blocks/building. Sometimes we receive a step file that comes from Revit, and once that is in place, we have much more detail about were equipement and piping can be placed. If we could draw technical buildings, ,steel platform, stairs, seacontainers that gets equiped inside, ourselves in Revit, and there was just a once import in Inventor, that would be great. (If it all can happen without slowing down the performancet too much)

 

BR, Johan

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Hello,

 

You can use Inventor to convert the STP files into ADSK ou RVT format to use in Revit.

I believe the result is enough for your need, but some simplification in Inventor is desired to not bloat you file.

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L.Maas
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I think it could work. You definitely are going to be able to create building in Revit. You can also "live" link Revit files in side Inventor (check the link inmy previous post). Things like skids and seacontainers might be better made in Inventor. Depends little bit on purpose and detail. So you would need to finetune the workflow.

Check in the Inventor forum about their experiences with linking Revit and performance

 

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johan.degreef
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Can I create these kind of platforms and stairs in revit, and do I have detailed drawing for contruction with Revit? cutlengths, holes in profiles,...?

 

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If you are looking to create those platforms in Revit you will NOT be able to do detailed construction (fabrication) drawings with cutlengths, hole locations, etc. Revit was not intended to produce these items. Revit is a data base program as part of a BIM process. Could Inventor do it? More than likely, but to me Inventor is more for very small machine parts or small assemblies, not platforms and the such.

 

I think what you are looking for is Advanced Steel. 

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johan.degreef
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I am not going to start on the "Autocad 3D way of working".

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L.Maas
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A lot is possible in Revit. However for what you want you start to stretch the limits of Revit.

In your case I would think that Inventor will be the better tool to create those platforms.

Inventor should be perfect able to create those platforms and stairs. Check around the web and you will see plenty of examples. Some addons might be used to speed up the creation process

 

For your information Revit minimum line length is about 0.8 mm. This mean sthat the (very) fine details are not possible within Revit.

 

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johan.degreef
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I case we don't need detailed cutlengths and holes drawings:

 

We use inventor and it is a lot of constraining work to get all in place. When I see Revit you can easely layout a grid, draw walls, door, gates. All without going too much in detail, but it is a fast way to have a 3d model for a technical building.

If industrial stair and paltforms are in the scope of Revit, it might be a much faster way to set up a plant, and go to the customer wwith a nice drawing. Here is an example of what i mean (made in Inventor):

in a later phase we can reuse the revit model to start detailed engineering in inventor, but first bringing in the Revit model.

 

Knipsel3.JPG Knipsel2.JPG Knipsel.JPG Knipsel5.JPG

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