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View Template filtering

View Template filtering

New to the forums, but curious if this has been talked about in the past and I missed it. And if this exists and I just don't know how to do it I apologize

 

What about adding additional more project specific hierarchy in view template overrides? 

 

(Background) In my custom residential firm we amend each view and dimension only what is needed based on each trade. This is our way of curbing some of the common mistakes and make things ultra clear, and ultra specific to a client's preference instead of accepted standards. So I create the same view multiple times and dimension what is needed, hide whatever, change the graphic whatever etc. As a result I end up with many many sheets of the same thing with only a few changes per sheet. Recently, I've started just hiding the trade things within the same view, but that still takes longer and is very manual and room for error on my part. View templates, while great, can only take me so far. If I could use a view template to show/hide a type of dimension per view (exp. 1/8" plumbing or 1/8" Tile) . Then I could do all the dimensioning on the same view and then just apply the necessary template, hiding whatever is not relevant to that trade, and print the set. So instead of 10 views I'd have 10 templates for one view. Less time for me and less missed for me.

 

So back to my "idea". What about adding further hierarchy in view template overrides? specifically in Text/Dimension styles?

 

Or maybe this is to specific to me and how my firm runs to apply to anyone else..

3 Comentarios
chubbard
Collaborator

You can certainly do that. Filters will be your friend here. 

 

If you want to hide one dimension and show another you can do that with filters. 

 

You COULD just turn off all the rest of the VT settings and only update the filters. You  could also not have a template assigned to a view <None> and just apply a template make the PFD apply a new template repeat. 

 

Not trying to tell you how to do your process, but this workflow can be error prone. It reminds me of old CAD workflows with people turning layers on and off, only to forget and print the RCP without the ceiling layers on. 

 

Since you are making 10 sheets anyway seems like less work to have 10 views with the proper template assigned, and a master working view where you can see everything, then you don't have to remember to apply templates, just send the whole set to PDF and be done with it. 

 

You could even color code the working view so you can do a quick visual check to see if everything is the right "Type" before PDF. 

If you assign the template to the view you will not have to constantly hide or show elements.

 

We typically have the following floor plan types with associated templates 

 

Dimensions plan

Doors windows and openings

Finishes

Equipment 

FFE

Code or Egress

Area or Space Planning

 

All of these have templates assigned from our template and we tweak them project to project depending on what is needed. Some projects use all of those some only part. For instance if there are large open spaces with few dimensions we add the doors into that plan. Or maybe the FFE. Again just trying to keep the plans relevant and readable, while automating the management of what is visible, 

Plan types with templates already assigned and mostly figured out is key to this working. 

 

We do our sections, elevations and details the same way. Very few of our views do not have a preassigned template.

lucdoucet_msdl
Advisor

@ana_bb 

 

This discussion thread has two approaches that may prove useful for your requirements:

Cannot filter any type of annotations or dimensions in Revit

These are:

  • Create selection filters (and not view filters) OR;
  • Use dynamo scripts (see link in discussion thread above)

By creating annotation, dimension and possibly tags with a specific keyword in the family name (ex. no suffxe = common to all trades, _FF= florr finishes, _FC=finish carpentry, _RC=rough carpentry, etc) either of the methods above would be able to control the visibility of desired documentation elements of a common view.  It would then be the draftspersons job to ensure that the documentation elements are the right family in the view.

 

Hope this helps,

 

-luc

ana_bb
Observer

Thanks to you both for the input! I've realized that (using RVT LT) I am missing some of the more robust filtering capabilities that I didn't know existed before, and that is where a lot of the automation could be happening. I think it's time I go back to the full version (and for Dynamo too).

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