Unique section view

[shogunnta]

I have an idea about a new feature: unique section view. Here how it works:

- Section view have 02 instance (or type) parameters call "Unique" (boolean) and "Host view" (text, read only).

- In a active view (plan view), I select a section view and set Unique to Yes. Then this section view (the symbol) is shown ONLY in the active view and don't show in other views (plan, section). The Host view will show the name active view.

This features can help Revit users save a lot of time to cleanup views without using filters or adjusting depth/length of section view.

Edit: thank Pieter for updating this idea: this feature should apply for elevation view too.

[MattK.]

Scope boxes have a neat "views visible" button, which allows visibility control across all views in a single sweep. Can we please have this "views visible" button added to Sections as well? With the goal to more easily control which views the section callout appears in.

IE, if I have a section showing lighting fixtures, I only want the section callout to appear on my lighting plans. I don't want that section callout to appear on my power, signal, FA, etc floor plans. The current methods of controlling this are to either turn off all sections in the view graphic settings or to individually hide the section call out elements - neither is ideal. It would be nice to hit one button and manage it similar to scope boxes.

Thanks for your consideration.

[CFNBen]

Those are (as far as I am aware) not the only ways to hide sections, callouts, elevations etc.

View templates and Filters. 

All of our View Templates hide off the view types, which are not associated with them, by way of Filters. 

We have view types for lighting, for fire alarm etc. This is for every kind of view: 

• Floor Plans
• Sections
• Reflected Ceiling Plans
• Elevations
• Detail Views (Callouts)

The lighting (for example) view template then has all the Fire Alarm Views turned off, likewise the power, drainage, HVAC etc.

So when we do a lighting callout, the only plans it shows up on are the lighting plans (and the Model/Working Plans where we do our coordination - these are not sheet views).

Perhaps this was better placed in the help forums than as an Idea.

[MattK.]

Hi Benmcqueen, thanks for your feedback. You are right - if you create a new section view type for every type of view and manually set up filters for views/view templates to account for this, then yes - you could have this process slightly more automated. To me, this still seems to be more of a work around and adds clutter with family types, all to "solve" an issue that could be addressed in a much simpler method.

In my opinion, my "idea" is still something that could be implemented. If they added the "views visible" box or similar to sections, then I'd for sure use it.

I'll try to leave out unnecessary examples from my "ideas" in the future - which may detract from the idea itself.

[Curty102]

There is also "hide at scales courser than".  Adding "hide at scales finer than" would also be a good improvement.

[CFNBen]

Hi @MattK. 

This process is completely automated if you set your template up well. If I want a section on my lighting drawings, I will simply draw a lighting section. No thought behind it other than "what will I want to show in this section?"

No fiddling with which views I want it to show on - the only choice is what view type and then everything else is taken care of. Everything looks the same in my lighting plans and lighting sections because they are lighting views. 

A proper set of templates, done once, is your one-button solution. Think a bit more long term about every project. The template scenario will save you time on every single project - every single section, callout, elevation. Even if it takes hours to create initially. 

On the Scope Boxes note in your original idea - we use worksets to decide whether they are shown. We have a default workset which is where we model our design, then we have a Guide Elements workset for everything that is just for us. That workset is set to 'Not Visible' by default so that anything we place on that is only seen when deliberately turned on. Other things which might be on this Guide Elements workset are walls that we find it easier to place sockets on, or ceilings for air terminals and lights. That workset is then only turned on in our working views where we are actually placing/modelling, not our sheet views where we only want to see final design intent.

[pieter7]

So basically add the "show in" parameter (that already exists for detail views and plan callouts) to sections as well? Yes I think that would be very helpful. 

It would also be nice if we could change the parent view (currently you can only change it to <none> but you cannot assign it to another (parallel) view.

[shogunnta]

Hi Pieter,

Yes, the main idea of new feature for section view is the same "unique" ability of callout view and expand its abilities that allow user can choose which plan/section view will only show the selected section view.  And we can release unique-mode by set the parameters to False. I think this feature can help us keep plan views are clean and reduce number of filters for control section view visibility.

[pieter7]

Totally agree. On that note, it would also help to have this for elevations. 

[MichaelWarwick7522]

Agree, but as mentioned by @pieter7 , the terms "Show in" and "Parent view" already exist and just should be extended to include sections and elevations. Also agree that the ability to select the parent view would be fantastic.

[martinYPEA7]

Section views to have the same option "Show in & Intersection Views" as with Call out views.
It will be great if section views had an option to show newly created section views in the plan view it was created in only or all intersection plan views.   

[Christina_schwarz]

Meine Idee ist den Schnitten die man in Revit ziehen kann eine Bestimmte Planzuordnung zu geben.

So kann man wenn man den schnitt zieht auswählen auf welchem Plan er gezogen wird und er ist nur auf diesem Sichtbar. Ebenso sollte man dann in den Typeneigenschaften oder in einer externen liste zu diesem schnitt ankreuzen können das er noch auf anderen Plänen sichtbar ist oder ihn wieder von anderen Plänen weg haken kann.

Das Problem hierbei ist wenn mehrere Personen an einem Projekt arbeiten und jemand einen  Kontrollschnitt oder Leitdetailschnitt zieht das dieser auf allen Plänen sichtbar ist die schon fertig erstellt wurden und man in jedem einzelnen Grundriss den man erstellt hat diesen Schnitt wieder ausblenden muss. Sehr lästige Arbeit sag ich nur da wäre es leichter wenn man einen schnitt erstellt der nur auf dem plan den man braucht sichtbar ist und andere Pläne nicht beeinflusst werden