Uncropped Perspective 3D View

[Anonymous]

There absolutely, positively needs to be the option for default 3D views to display in perspective. This is so fundamental that I would have expected to see these years ago. Having this feature should be one of the biggest priorities for the next release of Revit. It could be a check box or context menu setting on the view cube for the existing default view. I promise it would be game changer and expand the use of Revit for conceptual design as much as technical documentation. Humans see in perspective, so we should be able to work that way too in Revit. Please vote this up! Cheers!

[jsanders]

This would be so amazing.

[Anonymous]

You can create perspective view in revit: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/EN...

[jsanders]

@Anonymous yes you can but you can't work in it properly. Working in camera views is a pain and that's not how Revit is supposed to work.

In Navisworks we can activate a perspective view.

In Sketchup we can activate a perspective view.

All respectable CAD sofwares have the option to either work in orthogonal view or perspective view.

[SeanMTA]

Perspective view navigation is actually EMBARRASSING. There have been so many times when myself or my team is trying to whip around and show the model in perspective while a Partner (that it used to Sketchup) waits for us to get the thing sized and oriented and all that. Its embarrassing.

Why can't their be a lightweight default 3D view that can toggle perspective and parallel without the need for a crop boundary?

[loboarch]

It is possible to work and model in a perspective view.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/allow-full-modelling-capability-in-3d-perspective-mode/id...

Just to be clear, is this a NEW idea to make this experience better, because the essence of this request DOES exist.

[jsanders]

@loboarch Ok then, tell me where is the button that enables me to switch from ORTHOGONAL VIEW to PERSPECTIVE VIEW.

I'll wait.

[loboarch]

There is a toggle between perspective and orthogonal on the right click of the view cube in a 3D view. This toggle is only enabled if the 3d view was created with a camera. A "default" 3d view can't be toggled this way.

 

[jsanders]

@loboarch I do not wish to work in a camera view, it's extremely frustrating to create and navigate into such a view. I've had this argument from Autodesk employees for almost 3 years now, everytime they say "create a camera view". I want to be in the {3D} Default view, and toggle between perspective and orthogonal, like almost every single other CAD software out there.

[loboarch]

Understood. I was just trying to clarify what the original idea post was requesting. It was not clear what the expectation was.

You would like to request the ability to toggle a default 3D view between perspective and orthoagonal projections. Correct? 

[Anonymous]

I think his other problem is that you can't really pan in a camera view. It moves the viewport, not pans like in a parallel view, and you can't disable the crop.

[SeanMTA]

The problem is the Crop Region must be on for this toggle to work. We end up fighting for the zoom extent of the crop region versus working and orbiting within it in perspective. Its like this weird view within a view that requires two different forms of navigation: one with the mouse and the other with the steering wheel (and mouse).

Perspective with no crop region would be great. Even if only the default 3D view could do this it would be amazing.

[loboarch]

Then perhaps this is closer to what the request is?

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/uncropped-perspective-3d-view/idi-p/6603527

[Anonymous]

^^ Yes! And that's on the revit roadmap: 

"With the 2017.1 release, we introduced modeling in perspective views, but we are not done.  We know that you need a true 3D perspective view (not just a camera), and that it is important that you can see your levels in 3D in order to accurately model. Stay tuned!"

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-roadmaps/revit-roadmap-update-april-2017/ba-p/7013972

So you just have to wait...

[jsanders]

@loboarch YES ! Absolutely. That would be an amazing feature that has been missing from Revit for years and years and needs to be fixed. Everyone is fed up with camera view, it's absolute rubbish you can't work in it, and it's not meant to be worked in it.

Do you know Navisworks ? There is a button that toggles from perspective to orthogonal and vice versa at anytime : this is what I need. This is what everyone needs.

[jsanders]

I still can't believe that Autodesk haven't implemented this. What are they thinking ??? This should have been added to Revit 10 years ago.

[loboarch]

Ok, then can I merge your request here with that existing request (that is on the road map by the way?)

[jsanders]

That would be amazing. The CEO of Autodesk should be called on the spot to know that this is the top priority for his company. Adding this to Revit would be an absolute game changer. It would then simply out class all other comparable software.

[loboarch]

It is on the roadmap, which means it is near term development, so keep an eye out.  I will merge this idea with the other one.

[jsanders]

Good. 

[Anonymous]

This functionality obviously needs to be integrated. Revit is far behind in this respect, when you consider that it is the only mainstream architectural modeling software that doesn't have this very basic functionality. Having to create a cropped camera view every time you want to demonstrate a 3D from the perspective you would actually view it by is a little ridiculous.

Many Autodesk products already incorporate this into basic modelling views, Maya, 3ds Max, even AutoCAD already has this, so it's clearly possible. Can you please extend what you already have in camera views into a proper perspective view that you can switch between (from orthographic) easily.

Can't be the only one who thinks the camera view is an awkward mess and a half measure for a necessary design feature that every other software has..