Uncropped Perspective 3D View

[Anonymous]

There absolutely, positively needs to be the option for default 3D views to display in perspective. This is so fundamental that I would have expected to see these years ago. Having this feature should be one of the biggest priorities for the next release of Revit. It could be a check box or context menu setting on the view cube for the existing default view. I promise it would be game changer and expand the use of Revit for conceptual design as much as technical documentation. Humans see in perspective, so we should be able to work that way too in Revit. Please vote this up! Cheers!

[Anonymous]

Ability to Change in 3D view Isometric View to Perspective without Camera  like in 3ds Max

[lionel.kai]

This functionality is already there: make sure "Crop Region Visible" is checked, then right-click the View Cube and choose "Toggle to Perspective-3D View". Of course, that just sets YOUR default 3D view to display in perspective (the view that YOU see when you click the 3D house button).

If you want to be able to set the Perspective/Parellel toggle in the View Template so that ALL users with that template (and all new 3D views, if you so desire) will be perspective, then that's another animal entirely. Is THAT your wish?

[Anonymous]

Yes it's true that toggling that feature generates a camera type object within Revit. But that's another aspect of why this capability needs to be expanded - You cannot edit geometry in a perspective camera view. I'm talking about being able to fully work within a 3D perspective view, with or without a crop region. If that means this function would be a part of view templates then yes, that is my wish. I'm really describing the functionality of any other 3D program from maya, max, rhino, formit, or sketchup. 

[Anonymous]

Now that Revit 2017.1 has full support for editing in 3D perspective mode (yay!) I would like to be able to just click the always disabled checkbox labelled "perspective" located in the view properties and have the default orthographic view converted to perspective.

cheers,

-tomek

[Anonymous]

You'll be pleased to hear that you can now edit geometry in 3D perspective views. This feature is available right now in Revit 2017.1 update. See this post: http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/allow-full-modelling-capability-in-3d-perspective-mode/idi...

I've also suggested that it should be easier to get to a perspective view: http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/enable-switching-between-parallel-and-perspective-3d-modes...

cheers,

-tomek

[Anonymous]

Some extra thoughts to my suggestion. I have never used Revit's perspective mode beyond setting up a camera view because that's all that it was good for. Now that we've got full editing capability I've spent some more time exploring this view type. My conclusion is that it is not a very nice space to work in, primarily because the perspective view is contained in a viewport that is a sub element of the view's window. It makes it difficult to see the whole model and I am finding myself constantly adjusting the crop region and using zoom and depth of field to get a view that is not too distorted. Frustratingly, trying to pan the model simply moves the camera viewport region in the view window instead of actually panning the model. To pan the model I have to bring up the nav wheel (which is another of my pet peeves as it is an unnecessary proxy).

I suggest that when switching from parallel to perspective the perspective mode should not have to rely on cropped regions or any other secondary viewports. It should work just like other 3D modelling packages, Sketchup, 3D Max or Rhino, where the model can be easily navigated and orbited in the primary window—just like parallel view but in perspective!

[Anonymous]

I'm aware of this, but again it presents very weak functionality. In other words, it's simply not good enough and still appears to be inferior to almost every other 3D application. Default Perspective 3D View independent of camera objects with full modeling, navigation, and editing capabilities just like the current isometric view is the solution at a minimum! I anxiously wait for this to be added. I can say with confidence that having it would be a game changer for anyone who designs in Revit. Otherwise the app will continue to have the stigma of being clunky, ugly, and unworthy of consideration for a design platform.

[Anonymous]

I agree with everything you said. I’ve since clarified my request for
adding the ability to switch easily between parallel and perspective modes.
In particular I stressed that such a facility must support a true
perspective view independent of any camera object, so pretty much what you
said.

I agree that Revit suffers a lot as a design tool from inadequate support
for modelling in perspective mode. Now that the editing aspect has been
sorted, adding natural way of navigating within the perspective space
should be high on Autodesk’s priority list. I don’t even want them to be
hugely innovative here. They just need to do what everyone else has been
doing for decades now. DECADES!

I get a bit worked up about this but this problem has been solved really
well already and the solutions are well described in the computer graphics
theoretical literature. I know because I used to be a software engineer
with keen interest in CG.

cheers,
-tomek
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about.me/tomek_piatek

[Anonymous]

Most definitely! I agree it doesn't have to be fancy either. It's simply an expectation of 3D modelers and it's embarrassing that Revit doesn't offer that. It would be like releasing a new smart phone without a touch screen at this point! Autodesk! Make Default 3D Perspective navigation part of the next release stat! Keep voting this issue up!

[ptranbergNTI]

You Can toggle to perspective from the ortho 3D View. Turn on the Crop region in the ortho 3D View - rightclick the viewcube and toggle to perspective..... Boom, but you are right, Then the adjustment is very difficult... I hope to see a cropregion free perspective View. 

Peter

[esatis]

Why is that viewing model in perspective view is so difficult in difference to orthographic view? 

Because there is no mouse panning in perspective view and because it is cropped.

We need option to disable perspective view cropping so we could easily pan model in perspective view.

[pieter4]

Good news, this idea is on the current roadmap!

[pieter4]

This is a duplicate idea to Perspective mode for 3d views

[pieter4]

There's another idea out there that's similar. Hopefully the mods will merge these together to combine the votes.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/3d-view/idc-p/7096544#M8333

[pieter4]

Also, I added an idea for a fly through mode (basically the same thing we have in Formit, Archicad, etc). This would work great if combined with the perspective mode.

Please add your support at [url]https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/fly-through-mode/idi-p/7117705[/url]

[pieter4]

oops. bb code doesn't work here. 

This is the correct link: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/fly-through-mode/idi-p/7117705

[joslindave]

 I agree with this idea - Project Vasari could function in perspective natively - just a checkbox switch from ortho to perspective. If it could be done there, should be possible in Revit.

[Anonymous]

 I'm glad to see this is on the Roadmap! I'm glad to see how much discussion this post has generated. We're getting there! Hopefully sooner rather than later!

[SeanMTA]

The Default 3D View should be special and have an Axo/Perspective toggle. This way the other Camera views (which depend on a crop boundary and its size) can remain as they are, maybe without massive revamp.

[Anonymous]

This is exactly the way I had envisaged it with the addition of being able
to create additional "default 3D" views.

Once we have this feature and proper multi-display support Revit will
become a truly formidable design tool.

-tomek