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Support ifc (stored in the cloud) in nested links in cloud worksharing

Support ifc (stored in the cloud) in nested links in cloud worksharing

On behalf of a customer from Germany let me post the following wish:

Currently IFC files, stored in the cloud,  won't appear through nested links in a cloud worksharing model. Request is allow the support of IFC through nested links in cloud worksharing.

This issue impact not only ifc, but non-workshared nested links as well. See this article.

 

45 Comentarios
r.waandersEF3FP
Contributor

@benschilders  Yes I use the IFC add on from the Autodesk App Store. Beside that, I use a standarized and optimized IFC template and IFC im- and export mapping table. The problem with IFC's is that the quality of it depends on how a third party exports it from their software. If that's done not properly...you can fill in the rest. 

paavo.idman
Contributor

This is actually a part of a larger problem. Which is that non-cloud workshared models are not visible as links when viewing an actual cloud workshared model in browser.

 

Usually this means .RVT files converted from IFC files but it can be something else too. E.g. Tekla can export structural models as .RVT files but that doesn't help if it's not a cloud workshared model.

 

And initiating models as cloud workshared models every time they get updated is unnecessarily burdensome and I think it also requires you to delete the previous model in BIM 360 because you can't initiate a new one on top of the old one with the same name.

 

One other option that we have tried to look into is to save those converted RVT files with Save as Cloud Model function. But we haven't been able to test if those would be visible in browser as links or if you can save an updated RVT directly on top of the old one because that of course requires some other license that is not included in the BIM 360 Design license ("Cloud Models for Revit" instead of "Revit Cloud Worksharing" https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles... ).

charl.maraisJGPAX
Participant

@Anonymous, PLEASE consider resolving the inability of bim 360 to handle linked IFC files. On our current multidisciplinary civil infrastructure project, we have literally 100s of IFC files that get updated weekly and simply don't have the time to open each Revit file separately to create workshared cloud models. Hence, we are forced to keep these IFC files offline on our local server - not ideal for collaboration, especially in this pandemic-age :cara_guiñando_un_ojo:

charl.maraisJGPAX
Participant

This is hardly a novel idea and it has been flagged since the inception of bim 360. Please sort this out as a matter of urgency............ no, the workarounds don't work with nested linked IFC files and the notion of manually creating workshared models of hundreds of weekly updated IFC files, is not an option.

Hi, @charl.maraisJGPAX ,

 

Here is a similar Idea: Support ifc (stored in the cloud) in nested links in cloud worksharing - Autodesk Community

If you think they are similar enough, I will combine this one with yours.

 

Thank you for your submission!

Kimberly

Is there any solutiuon about this topic nowadays? 

Viveka_CD
Autodesk Support

Adding this request from one of our enterprise customers based in the UK

They are asking for IFC files to be managed in BIM 360 as if they were native Revit or AutoCAD files.

 

REVIT-126918 and REVIT-167696

almeidaandre
Advocate

What is the best method to work with IFC on Collaborate Pro (Revit 2020)?

Kris_McIsaac
Participant

As another large enterprise customer I want to put my support behind this request.  We are also working on large infrastructure projects and others like Pharma and water with IFC files from multiple other platforms.  The current workflow (workaround!!) is a huge burden to the projects.  Nesting and updating IFC links needs to be as simple as with .DWG.  

roger.festeBCQPP
Enthusiast

We have several customer having the same issues. Showing linked IFCs should not be an issue at all. 

Everyone are working with IFCs alle the time. This needs to be fixed.

El estado se ha cambiado a: Accepted

Congrats! We think this is a great idea, so we've decided to add it to our roadmap. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

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The Factory

@shaun.r.clough ,

As stated in my post, Accepted Ideas may not be immediately available on the public roadmaps, however they have been included in our teams' internal roadmap. Confusing, I know, but once it hits a certain point in development (I don't know when), it will be added to the public roadmaps and Revit Preview.

shaun.r.clough
Advocate

@benschilders and @r.waandersEF3FP I understand your workflows, however how do you manage change when the IFC files are updated?   Currently, you cannot overwrite a cloud work sharing or save to cloud Revit models.  Which forces you to delete the previous IFC.RVT and create a brand new one, which creates a new GUID in BIM 360, which plays havoc with Model Coordination and Assemble.

asWAPL9
Enthusiast

hey Autodesk, how about a better workflow? :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

Autodesk, facilite el Open BIM, consideren permitir el reconocimiento de vínculos IFC dentro de la ACC

MichaelWolff
Advisor

@Orsolya.Balazs @kimberly_fuhrman-jones Almost a year since the 'acceptance', is there an update yet?

El estado se ha cambiado a: Implemented

Per the product team, we are pleased to say that this has been implemented in Revit 2025! Thank you for your contribution to improving Revit!

 

 -The Factory

shaun.r.clough
Advocate

@kimberly_fuhrman-jones , okay I'll bite, where can I find more information on how Revit 2025 resolved the linked IFC issues with ACC/BIM 360?

@shaun.r.clough ,

This was considered a fix, so just a mention in the Enhancements section of the Release Notes for Revit 2025. 

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2025/ENU/?guid=RevitReleaseNotes_2025release_Enhancements_html

What this fixed:

  • Nested IFC files that are loaded through Desktop Connector will be loaded and shown in cloud workshared models
  • Nested RVT files that are loaded through Desktop Connector will be loaded and shown in cloud workshared models

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