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Structural stairs and railings families

Structural stairs and railings families

As Revit Roadmap have Steel Fabrication item - we need structural steel stairs and railings families as in Advance Steel.

 

May be in common would be better to have universal steel structure skeleton where bone will be base line for structural framings, something like 3D truss family or upgraded Structural Framing - Complex and Trusses. Then we can do  stairs and railings by using this structure.

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KuberanBaskar
Enthusiast

Hai,

Please add a tool for Structural Stair and also add a family category for that..

 

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Rivera-Artes
Advocate

We need to able to use steel framing elements, be able to tag the framing elements with the framing tag and extract information from the steel framing elements for validation and cost schedule. The stairs need to be able to accommodate an easy match or set up to facilitate the continues change from the Architects.

NOT POSSIBLE TO PUT STRUCTURAL CONNECTION TO STAIR STRINGER. REQUIRED. TNX. 

Rivera-Artes
Advocate

Architects spend a lot of time modeling and coordinating stairs, why not just let the stair use real steel elements in the stair mode, that will save a lot of time. Right now we have to copy the stair and model all the framing elements to make the stair works is a waste of time when the stair is already modeled by the architect.

YarUnderoaker
Collaborator

Now I use truss family to model structural railings. But this method has poorly automated.

Me need a lot of truss families for each number of balusters and also need to manually apply miter and sawcut connection between handrails and balusters, and connections forRailingsRailings baluster to bearing beam.

wr.marshall
Advisor

The ability to attach the existing staircase type to Structural Steel beams & columns or create a new structural steel stair case family that can do just that.

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ahmadfiroozi000
Advocate

There are 2 types of stairs in Revit but if we want to create temporary stair or stair that has made by steel material there isn't this type. 

Anima_mc
Participant

Please provide an option to model staircases with steel Grating treads and landing. With the current options, we can only adjust the material or graphical appearance.

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kimberly.fuhrman
Autodesk

Hi, @Anima_mc ,

Here are several similar Ideas. Please feel free to add your vote there, or if you think they are similar enough, I can combine yours with them.

 

Steel stair - Autodesk Community

Structural Steel Staircase - Autodesk Community

Structural stairs and railings families - Autodesk Community

 

Thank you for your submission!

Kimberly

wr.marshall
Advisor

@kimberly.fuhrman Please combine all ideas you suggested, as they are all asking the same thing. A staircase made of steel (structural steel)

 

This one has the most votes so combine the others with it

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/structural-stairs-and-railings-families/idi-p/7344239 

Anima_mc
Participant

@kimberly.fuhrman Please combine this idea with similar ones. 

kimberly.fuhrman
Autodesk

@Anima_mc  @wr.marshall  Thank you!

wr.marshall
Advisor

With regards to schedules will need ability to set a base length i.e. the supplier offers steel in .5m increments and the piece you require is 1.8m therefore you will be required to buy a 2m piece. It must then also show the cut length of 1.8m

 

with regards to modeling the ability to fine tune the cut. Inventor has the ability to sketch a profile on a plane and then do a cut as per user specified depth or thru all. Perhaps Revit can adopt a similar approach.

mromagnoli
Advocate
neilbassonneil
Enthusiast

Wouldn't it be great to have real steel sections in the stair tool making up the stringers and landings, instead of just "fake" sections created using profiles. This would have the advantage of being able to use the steel tools on them along with connections. We use revit for a high level of detail in our models and that would be a great help with regard to consistency on drawing views where real steel sections are used alongside these stairs.

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Johannes_Visagie
Explorer

This is a real issue and would really be great if this is something that we can get added.

Jonathan.Ludwig
Participant

Hmm....i would much prefer that if time was spent on refining how the support stringers can be modeled.  Attention should be given to how it terminates, e.g. at the floor levels, or the transitions at mid-landings.   The current tool only allows for a vertical or horizontal slice, and almost always, the stringer extends beyond the last riser, and is trimmed vertically.   Impossible to model using the OOTB tools.

 

Regarding steel sections?  It is actually really easy to create profile families using the same out-of-the-box type AISC type catalogs that the structural framing families utilize.   Nothing fake about profiles using these tables.

 

Personally, I would have little need for this, but see no harm in providing it -- as long as the bigger issues of resolving the modeling difficulties are addressed first.

kimbD79KU
Enthusiast

Did you know you can input the stringer sections in Stairs?  We do this all the time.

wr.marshall
Advisor

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