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Electrical - Single Line Diagrams/One Line Diagrams

Electrical - Single Line Diagrams/One Line Diagrams

Please look into providing a tool pallet consisting of typical electrical symbols that are used to develop a single line diagram.

Perhaps, these could be used inside a Detail View, or they could be used in a Legend.

It could also be under a different view altogether, exclusive and specific for drawing single line diagrams.

 

Revit 2017 has been out for a few months now, and it still does not offer this capability. Without such a tool, electrical engineers who still use AutoCAD would be extremely skeptical to make the move to Revit.

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fabiosato
Mentor

Create a new type of view, let´s say Single Line Diagram, for each panel, them for each circuit automatically places a correspondent detail item, for example, that represents the circuit.

Customizing the symbol and allowing to change it symbol families is a MUST.

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fabiosato
Mentor

Hello,

 

Link my idea along to your idea, let´s make it happen!

 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/single-line-diagrams-for-electrical-panel/idi-p/6339334

amit.roy
Explorer

Yes, it'd even better if this new "view", let's say, is linked to the creation of Electrical Systems! It'd be similar to creating a panel schedule then.

 

This way, all the components are interlinked with each other. If a transformer, for example, were to change in the project, the single line diagram would automatically get updated per the updated Revit family!

 

Of course you'd still need manually place-able and customizable detail components to show existing features such as: feeders, transformers, panels, breakers, etc. on a single line. This could probably be achieved by having built in Instance Parameters to the components.

 

Yes, let's make it happen!

GPnmulder
Advocate

I agree this is a gap in the software and I'd like to see some progress in this area. But the usual response is that it would be difficult to produce a single line diagram that is flexible enough to account for individual company standards.

 

As others have stated in various places, it needs to account for categories in addition to electrical equipment, like data, security, fire alarm, etc. I think the system browser would be a good place from which to extend these capabilities.

 

One current approach is to use an elevation or section view, tags that look like one-line symbols, and apply various VG controls to model elements to make it look like a one-line. Revit 2017 (for sure 2017.1) allows for pinning tags. This makes this approach more feasible so that moving model elements doesn't automatically affect the one-line, apart from actually deleting the element.

 

 But I would still vote for a more intelligent one-line diagram feature to be developed in the software.

trentf4
Contributor

This would be such a monumental upgrade if this were to come into Revit it would save a lot of time and money using 'other' programs to do Single lines effectively, Yes you can do a quick SLD with details items yourself but they are 'dumb' and have no functionality with whats actually produced in the model.

 

It would be very beneficial when you create a circuit in a panel schedule or link a lighting circuit that it would then create a circuit on a SLD just like Powercad does.

neorevit
Community Visitor

hi 

i found Power cad add in revit add ins but i need af macro that can update a drafting view

meaby we should contact this developer to get startet 

drpierce
Participant

There needs to be a way to provide an Electrical Single line diagram with in Revit. All the information is in the families and the model. If you could like the information to an annotation that would update as thing change would be a big help.

zhaohui.chen5TEA7
Enthusiast

electrical schematic single line diagrams are essential 

BIM.Champ
Contributor

This would be great if autodesk could integrate a native tool to do this for all systems not just electrical. 

Have you tried the POWERCAD-M Addin? it has an SLD creator that builds a drafting view of your connected electrical systems. It could do with some customisation of what parameters to retrieve but its great to see whats actually possible with API:
http://www.powercad-r.com/powercad-m/ 

Ismael_Arroyo
Explorer

Sería bueno si existiera la posibilidad de una vez conectado todos los elementos electricos y creado las alimentaciones, se pudiera o existiera alguna manera de que revit pudiera ir creando de una vez un diagrama unifilar de los que se esta conectando en la parte electrica y así que todo este sincronizado de una sola vez. 

 

Actualmente los diagramas unifilares, los trabajamos como dibujos importados de CAD, pero esto puede llegar a generar errores humanos, que el programa puede evitar, si tan solo pudiera o existiera la manera que conforme uno va conectado los equipos (medidores, trnasformadores y tableros) revit pudiera generar un unifilar con esta informacion para al final nada mas colocarlo en una lamina. 

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samuelsanf
Advisor

Saludos @Ismael_Arroyo ,

 

Actulamente los diagramas unifilares están incluídos en la Hoja de Ruta de Revit, aunque no se especifica el alcance de ello. Puedes consultarlo aquí:
https://trello.com/c/lawF2pu7

 

Por otro lado, la sugerencia se ha compartido anteriormente en este foro (ver los links más abajo).

 

 

@kimberly.fuhrman , the requested feature (Single Line Schematics) is included in the current Revit Roadmap, also is a duplicate request, with the following (maybe you can combine it and mark as accepted or something):

 

kimberly.fuhrman
Autodesk
Status changed to: Accepted

Congrats! We think this is a great idea, so we've decided to add it to our Revit Public Roadmap. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

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DBauer.GTT
Observer

Agreed that what we really need is a new view type for diagrams specifically, not specific to electrical (as I know plumbing, mechanical, low voltage, fire alarm, etc would love this as well).

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