Scope Box extents - better control

[awasyliw]

Please, please can we have better control over scope box extents? Once created a scope box has no edit sketch ability and won't respond to the align command. Basically you have nothing but very inaccurate dragging of control points with NO snapping. 

We really need much better control. Even just being able to use align the top, bottom & sides of a scope box would give us the control we need.

At the moment, if you want to set your scope box extents 150mm below ground floor level (for example) you can only do this by creating a new scope box in a ground floor plan and then moving it 150mm down in a section,elev or 3D view, because otherwise you are just guessing.

[apaupert]

 Adding the ability for Scope Boxes to use the Snap feature in Revit. Crop Regions have this ability but not Scope Boxes. If you want precision placement of these, it is only possible to zoom in far and nudge to get as close as possible. Not very accurate...

[Kevin.Bell]

Its not that easy to move and rotate them into place when you can't snap use the align command on them...

[Henrik_Nobile]

Creating and handling scopeboxes is really causing grey hair, here is another issue with scopeboxes to fix:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/scopeboxes-listed-in-alphabetical-order/idi-p/7308020

[pieter7]

Please do a quick search before you post ideas. There's 4000 ideas on here right now, chances are that it has been posted already. Such was the case with this idea: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/snap-to-scope-box/idi-p/6362876

[Henrik_Nobile]

Sorry pieter, didnt see that one - normally do search before posting. Unfortunately many ideas are so badly/pourly described you hardly know what they mean!!!

[CharlesBerteaux]

Seems like an obvious thing to make happen!

[lmlederer]

Yes, please add the ability to snap to scope boxes.  I can't believe this feature isn't built into Revit already.

[Anonymous]

HELLO Autodesk!?!?!?!

Any updates on this?

[rasmus.oberg]

Please implement this! Scope Boxes are key in properly splitting drawings, we shouldn't have to resort to drawing them free hand.

[brunelli.b]

It would be great if scope boxes could be rotated using the align command. This would be very helpful when creating rotated views for building sections that are at an odd angle, rather than measuring the angle and manually rotating the scope box, it could be aligned to a grid line which would ensure that the angle is exact.

[jimmi.opperud]

I think there are many easy ways to rotate a Scope Box precisely including add-ins, but i agree for the ease of it.

And to add to this suggestion i also think they should snap to angles when using the rotate in the top right.

[andrea_kohl]

This can be accomplished with the rotate tool.

Select the scope box.

Select the rotate tool.

Move or place your pin to somewhere on the grid line with the angle.

Rotate until it snaps to the angled grid line.

[tariqallaham]

Great! Even more ideas and integration here:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/automate-and-integrate-matchline-scopebox-hatch-altogethe...

[Anonymous]

Yes! How come such a presise tool as Revit aspires to be do not offer a workflow that gives you scopeboxes of correct size and position? Approximate size for drawings on sheets? Unacceptable.

[pousty]

I use Autosection box to do it, but it's not made for

[awasyliw]

Didn't find this last time I searched and so posted similar thing myself ( https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/scope-box-extents-better-control/idi-p/9064240?search-act... ) 

Have now liked this one as well. It's frankly ridiculous how little control we have over scope boxes. I can accept the side extents, but I really need to ensure all the bottom planes sit in the correct place to crop my elevations, at present the only way to do that is to create a new scope box and then move it down the required amount. If the bottom extent ever gets changed that's it, you'll never get it back to where it should be.

[martijn_pater]

*bump* to gather support, with some additional update suggestions for scope boxes:

-add a manage overview for scope boxes to manage view visibility (not being a view list as to which scope box is applied to which view); If you accidentally (or just to see what will happen like me) set a scope box to invisible in all views these settings will be pretty much lost forever unless you happen to succeed to create a new view cutting it I guess.

-perhaps to only have levels/ref planes/grids cutting a selected scope box selectable in dropdown selection, or somehow being able to manage which of these will show/be selectable in views; could simplify finding the right level and contribute to workflow.

-being able to have a scope box applied but still be able to control view depth/clip offset in sections; ie. make clipping within the scope box an option with maximum clip distance ofcourse being the scope box range.

[mnieuwkerk]

AutoDesk... please make it possible to adjust the width, height depth of scopeboxes at any time in your project.
it's unbelievable that it still isn't possible today as we speak. Verry bad. fix that please 

excuse for the poor English

[Anonymous]

Why do Section boxes not have a view range.  I want to (grrr HAVE TO) export to 3D auto cad, all piping, plumbing, electrical below grade for the civil consultant who is using civil3d.  we don't care about anything above being in the cad file.  Yes I can create my 3D view and then turn on the section box and drag the top to, eehhh about there, and say it is close enough, but why can we not control it with more Precision.  Give us the ability to set the boundry with levels, scope boxes, reference planes, grid lines (quick give me some more) you get the picture.

[mmeinert]

Agreed. How about adapting the <Views Schedule> in the <Schedules> panel to schedule the scope boxes and their extends? That would give numeric control vs. dragging per OP request. Currently the <Views Schedule> inserts Null fields with a single "scope box" field column.  Alternatively introduce a separate <Scope Box> schedule in the <Schedules> panel. I'd find it more useful to see which scope boxes are used in which views than the other way around - which would follow the usual parent-child philosophy anyway.  Either schedule implementation should allow editing the fundamental dimensions. Not sure what they are internally hosted to. Probably just internal origin. In that case the dialog could be analogous to the "Rooms/Spaces" dialog with a selectable reference level and top/bottom offset plus editable lateral dimensions. Those could be associated to gridlines with offsets. That would follow the parent-child, abstract-to-physical philosophy of Revit => changed grid lines and levels change associated scope box dimensions and scheduling is easy.