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Room Separator Properties

Room Separator Properties

I'm working on a project with a multi-tiered space on a single floor of a building, modeled in revit as several levels approximately 18" apart from one another. This introduces a problem where in order to separate the rooms on each tier from the rooms on the tier above or below there needs to be an identical instance of a room separator boundary in plan, one for each tier. (Because of conditions below it can't be done where all separator boundaries are on the bottom most level.) Working in plan it becomes impossible to tell what room separator boundary is on what level, and the properties palette doesn't display any information to that effect. 

 

I would propose adding a parameter to the properties palette to display the work plane/level the room separator boundary is attached to. This would resolve the inability to tell what level a given room separator boundary is on in plan view. 

 

A better solution to my problem in particular might be to give room separator boundaries a 3D property, making them work more like walls with a top and bottom constraint. Then they become room separator planes, and they can more easily divide rooms in multilevel spaces. 

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Kimtaurus
Advisor

Best-practice when working on a project with split-levels, is to create "working" views per level. Since rooms are always associated to a level, a room must be placed on the correct level.

 

This practice also ensures walls, floors,... are created on the correct level.

Anonymous
No aplicable

We are already following those best practices. Not sure what about my suggestion led you to believe otherwise. Kind of condescending, really. 

 

It is in fact because of these best practices, combined with the fact that the effect of room separation lines are confined to the level they are placed on, that my problem exists. I'm working on a 4 tier open-plan split level project right now and it becomes very difficult to tell which room separation lines belong to which of our working levels. If the properties palette simply displayed the level a given room separation line was attached to, it would be much easier. The properties will report length, workset, etc, but not level or elevation. 

 

And in those cases where a room separation line is required on the lower and upper level at the split between levels, it would be much easier if it was a single room separation line on the lower level with a height property so that it could affect the room boundary at the upper level as well, without a second distinct room separation line.  

Kimtaurus
Advisor

Room seperation line are associated with levels because rooms follow the same principle.

 

Crop the working views, and adjust view range if necessary, so you only see the rooms/room seperation lines associated to the level that is associated the the view.

 

"...with a height property..." are you talking about a height property for the seperation lines?

Anonymous
No aplicable

I'm aware that room separation lines are associated with levels because rooms follow the same principle. I'm not disputing that it should be that way. I don't know what you are trying to add to the discussion by pointing out the obvious. 

 

Cropping the working views is a work around, but I thought this forum was an place for suggestions for improvements. Regardless of whether there is a work around to show only the separation lines at a specific level via view range adjustments, it would be an improvement for a room separation line to report the level it is associated with in the properties palette so you could save the effort of adjusting view ranges, if you so choose.

 

A second suggestion would be yes, a height property to the separation line, functionally turning it into a room separation plane. I also realize this would be a more complicated suggestion to implement in the software, but again, it could be a worthwhile improvement. Basically, to replace the current 2D room separator line paradigm with a room separator plane that acts as an infinitely thin wall with top and bottom constraints and no materiality, , dividing up a space as walls do. Again, that is a suggestion for improvement to the software, and not a misunderstanding on my part about how the software currently works.     

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