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Revit 2019 - Window Maximizing

Revit 2019 - Window Maximizing

Revit 2019 has lost a feature of conveniently maximizing any one of the tiled windows, while still having all the tools, project browser and properties visible.

 

If you have multiple tiled windows open, and you wish to maximize only one of them, you have to "pull" the chosen window out to get the small "maximize" icon in the top right corner, as well when you do maximize it, the window does not include any of the tools nor the project browser nor the properties, just the window. 

 

I like the view tabs and how they work, but why get rid of another equally valuable feature? Why not have both? 

53 Comentarios
angela_palmer
Observer

@Kitty.Ma Another example of why we wouldnt want to close tabs and just minimize them would be when editing families. We want to have family windows all together for each plan, elevation and 3d while editing in them but still maintain the project views that we were working in for plan/elevation section for example. To open these views up again and organize them in the tiling is time consuming if working in and out of families a lot.

Also, when working with detail or drafting views. We often have tons of different drafting views that may all start with the same naming convention and be long which would make us expand the browser to identify which ones we need. To have to keep expanding the project browser everytime we need to find the drafting views again to open is tedious.

In my experience, the TW shortcut works but not by default with my firms template so I'm guessing there is something in our template overriding that shortcut. We can obviously go in and edit the keyboard shortcut to adjust this, just letting others know in case they are having similar issue.

Anonymous
No aplicable

Yeah, the TW shortcut is default, so if it's not working, it's because your firm overrided it.

Anonymous
No aplicable

So was there a resolution found for this?  It's pretty tedious that you can't selectively maximize certain windows after the WT command.  Similar to the poster above who has all the views they want open at one time, but then is able to click and drag certain windows to make them larger as they see fit

 

Also, I'm curious, after using the WT command, if I want to close out of a window, the "X" for window closing jumps around based on how long the view's name is.  In Revit 2017 the "x" always stayed in the same spot so you can rapidly click and close out the views you didn't want.  you can't do that now because like I said, the "x" jumps around based on the views name

Anonymous
No aplicable

Have you tried using the 'close inactive view' button instead of multiple Xs? Much more efficient.

sdijanovic
Enthusiast

I'm not disagreeing with the option of "closing all inactive views" but this is an "all or nothing" workflow as in after you have WT views you have an option to TW one view and close all others, or keep everything maximized.

 

I'll try to explain where I find the current setup a bit cumbersome and not as flexible as before (of course, there are workarounds, but that's exactly what they are workarounds). This is just one of many examples. 

 

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Anonymous
No aplicable

Thank you sdijanovic!  that perfectly sums up my frustrations too

 

I've been using 2017, and since we just got a new project up and rolling I'm using 2020.  And yes, I now realize that you can't even minimize a window.  c'mon Autodesk!  AutoCAD does this all the time too where as you jump from year to year, they change the appearance of the command logos or colors, just to make it look more "flashy" but in essence makes things impossible to find if you become accustomed to a product bc you use it every day 

 

Its not the end of the world, I'll adapt, but I'm just dissapointed in Autodesk that the format was completely revamped by someone who I doubt is in the software every day, or is in the design field where time is of the essence.  

Scott_D_
Collaborator

I have to agree with pretty much every statement made above, i'm completely lost with this change. 

 

I don't mind the commands being moved to the ribbon so much but the Maximise button needs to come back.

 

Can we have the Maximise button back on the individual tile windows after the Windows Tile command please.

Anonymous
No aplicable

As I just posted here - https://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?9250-Full-Screen-Revit&p=1345713&viewfull=1#post1345713 - it's 2020 and we still need that for at least R18 and R19. Autodesk HAVE NOT MOVED A FINGER on this issue. We need a shortcut toggle to switch between full screen and back to normal view with all ribbon tabs etc. Jesus, do Autodesk even care 1 bit about their users???

Anonymous
No aplicable

Just to add to the chorus so Autodesk will hear another voice: 

Please reinstate the functionality whereby I can Maximize a View within the View Window area - so that it covers all open Views but does not take up the whole application window thereby hiding the menus, ribbon, Browser, Properties and status bar etc. The previous operation has been a fundamentally good and simple way of working for a decade or more, but now it has been changed - for the worse. This is a workflow I use all day every day and it is now painful. Was this change the result of user requests? Whoever designed and approved this improvement clearly does not use Revit in the way I and my colleagues do. Yes, the tabbing feature is a good improvement, but please revert the Maximize command to work on the View Window area again and not on the whole application window. I would be happy to do a share screen and discuss this with someone from Autodesk if that might aid your understanding of the problem that has been created here.

Thanking you in advance.

Anthony 

jseltzer
Enthusiast

Gotta ask, does autodesk have actual architects and engineers on staff to ask questions and bounce ideas off of? They must not. And if they do, they need to be replaced with some new ones. I mean some of the changes they make just make no sense at all

Scott_D_
Collaborator

Having thought about it, i believe the maximise command is now permanently working as if the window is on a secondary screen rather than the main one with the ribbon.

 

Just needs a check adding to the code to see whether the window in question is on the primary monitor and then either go full screen or fit to the window as appropriate.

francesh
Participant

Absolutely return to the double click window tab to enlarge. Having to click and then type TW to enlarge the window adds another few steps, makes no sense and is an uninformed change---LISTEN TO YOUR USERS not some programmer who is adding extra steps to professionals workflow because they don't listen to the people who make a living using your products.  Uninformed programmers will turn Revit into another AutoCAD, a big creaky mess.


Another frustrated user here!

It's really weird Autodesk still hasn't returned this function yet.
Obviously, there are a lot of us that would like to have hide/min/max buttons back on the tabbed windows.
Simply because when I use tiled widows, I often have them in a particular sequence, if for some reason I need it in full screen mode I just used to double click on that tiled window. when I'm done I just double clicked it again and it returned to the tiled view maintaining the sequence I had it in.

To explain in more depth. I basicly arrange my views according to the European ISO standard:

1st quadrant window are tabbed elevation and section views
perpendicular to the 3rd quadrant window.

2nd quadrant windows (located left to the 1st quadrant windows):
Are 3d Views (sometimes even multiple tabbed 3D views combined with section boxes).

3rd quadrant windows is the Floor plan (located below the 1st quadrant windows)
(sometimes even tabbed with an actual floor plan view and also a rotated section view so I don't need to change the view range each time I need to cut through a certain height on the floor plan.



4th quadrant window (located left of the 3rd quadrant windows):
Section views perpendicular to the 3rd quadrant window

This way I can navigate/model really fast through my entire model and don't need to be creating lots of multiple temporary section views. Because now I just need to move whatever section to whatever location.
And also switches back and forth between full/tabbed screen per view while retaining the sequence of the tabbed view.

And now you guys irritatingly took that away.
I still use my method but now I have to perform extra steps and clicks to achieve the same results, and takes up a lot of time.
I'd just say, simply put this feature and behavior of Windows back. They who need will use it, they who don't won't.
But at least put this back already. Users have been asking for this feature to come back since you guys took it away.
This is really frustrating and irritating!!!

Also would like to ask where the feature request is on this forum.
So we can all support for this feature to be back for all future releases.





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