Plot style table in Revit

[SNDE4D46G]

Revit Should have Plot style table like Autocad (CTB Files). Where we can choose colors of the drawings. Because Color option in Print setup has limitation. We can't print a specific color with others are in monocrome.

 

[ipselute]

Right now Revit uses the old way of printing, by using pen numbers and by assigning pen numbers to lines. This works like the old ctb files in Autocad.

Revit really needs a modern way of printing. Implementing 'real' lineweights and stb files from Autocad should be an obvious goal.

[samuelsanf]

No, in Revit you should create Line Styles with the plot weights. The assigne it by Object categories or subcategories.

[Mike.FORM]

As @samuelsanf said you just need to set up your project with the correct line styles and plot weights for all the model categories.

You can do all of this in the object styles, and if you set a colour to the line it will print in that colour. Also if done correctly you should always be printing in color and never in grayscale or blacklines.

[SNDE4D46G]

@Mike.FORM @samuelsanf

Thanks for your comments. I am aware of those settings. But in some standard projects for example we use different colors for tags and text, so that we can go through the drawings in Revit with extra quality check. Some time we do reinforcement modelling, and it shows with magenta color in the drawing views just for our working, and it helps me. But need to export the drawings with black color reinforcement. 
If we choose override option that will be same for all views and pdfs. 
In this situation CTB file can help you a lot. You will get extra flexibility like AutoCAD.

AutoCAD has layering option, but that also comes with three extra features. 
1. Model layer color
2. Viewport layer Color
3. CTB assignment.
Hope you understand what I am expecting.

[samuelsanf]

I understant your workflow, but I still the "What You See Is What You Get" way of Revit, with line weights.

You could create a PCP exporting Dwgs, and transform that into CTB in AutoCAD, but that not ideally and maybe got issues in the process.

If Revit do someting for this, in my opinion it should be:

1- Ability to apply view filter overrides by object Line Style or Lineweights.

2- Export CAD with CTB or STB.

[M_Geyer]

You should use view templates. E.g. Rebar work in progress - magenta —> if it is finished switch to rebar finish - black

[dtiemeyer]

The ability to override the color/weight of things at the time of printing would be useful.  There are so many places Revit uses to define the color of items, having a single place to override them would be great.  I'm sure there are more, but just off the top of my head, here are some of the places Revit uses to define the color of objects:

1. Object Styles
2. View Templates
3. Views w/o a Template
4. Individual Object Override
5. Loaded Families with built in colors of subcategories or text
6. MEP System Definitions (Ducts Systems, Pipe Systems)
7. Filters
8. Phase Override Settings
9. View Type (MEP views grayscale architectural things)

[Ric_Weber]

I was looking at this idea and just like @Mike.FORM and @samuelsanf I disagree with this as well and will not support it.  But I wonder as an alternative that perhaps some could get behind might be a second Object Styles within the project.  So, you would have your working Object Styles listing and settings.  all tags are orange, all pipe is purple, all structural walls are green and architectural walls are pink....  whatever you have.  Then there is the printing Object Styles settings.  That one is set up for when you want to print.  Then all you would have to do is select which Object Style settings you want to use in your print dialog.  Similar to picking a Plot Style Table.

But then the View Template overrides would still be there....  I'm wondering, perhaps with this ability, there would be fewer needs for more View Templates??  I'd really need to play with it to see how functional it might be to do this.  Might not be effective at all.  But it wouldn't hurt anything.  

Basically the same way we can have View Templates for working and View templates for printing to differentiate different things but this would be more universal.  

Thoughts??????

[dtiemeyer]

@Ric_Weber  There are some places in MEP Revit where View Templates are not the highest level of control, for example if you tell a duct system to be green, it will cause connected equipment and diffusers to become green when connected, and no other overrides (that I'm aware of) will change this colorization. 

It sounds to me like your idea could be boiled down to "have one group of View Templates but 2  versions of each - working and plotting, then use Transfer Project Standards to overwrite for whichever condition you want to be current", although I dont think this would affect families with built-in colors, it should handle pretty much everything else. I still think the 'color to plotter pen' aka AutoCAD CTB style approach would be most useful although a way to handle the full RGB palette would be needed because there are no 'index' colors in Revit.