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We need to be able to control phase overrides for categories separately. For example, we need to show a demo wall with a different linetype than a demo receptacle.
If not phase overrides by category, at least let us have different phase overrides for linked models.
Phases Graphics overrides everything when phasing is applied to a view. In healthcare design there is a need to show clearance zones around elements but I don't need a big black dashed lines all over the view. There should be a way to override the sub category so that I can show certain elements at half tone and in a light line weight.
Agree 100%. The solution to this i would like to see is to have Phasing merged in as a filterable value. This would allow us to build in the phasing overrides alongside any view filter overrides. Current behavior is that a view filter override governs over a Phase Filter override, so if you want to use Phasing Filters, you cannot use View Filters for anything other than Visible/Hidden as the line color/linetype overrides from the View filter will negate any Phasing filter.
If this were done, you could set up specific rules to fix things like clearances as you state, as well as create custom appearances for Existing and demo things that vary from category to category (Exist CMU walls have different appearances than Exist Concrete walls, Exist Columns have different cut line weights than Exist Walls, etc....)
Hop on board this idea already on the Forum... duplicate ideas dilute the votes. Although this idea is already over 300 votes it is still gathering support.
@Anonymous - To me, Filter overrides for Phase and Phase Overrides per Category are different Ideas.
I think that folks would get into less trouble with Phase Overrides per Category. It also has other "standards" benefits. I see the per Category overrides being done within the normal Phasing dialog, which would make it a project wide setting. This would be much better to apply at the template level and also make things entirely consistent across a project.
IF the Overrides Per Category was introduced, I feel that it should apply to ALL model Categories (and Sub-categories) as well as Annotation categories. It would be nice to have phasing settings for tags when applied to phased elements, or apply phasing overrides to nested annotation elements, etc (yes, that already happens).
Phasing Overrides Per Category is very different than using a Filter to see phasing of an element. While you could achieve similar results with a filter, you will also introduce a TON of possibilities that will most likely hinder consistency and make standards more difficult to enforce/maintain.
I need to be able to manipulate the graphics of a 'project phase'. For instance, I want to see both phase 1 and phase 2 on a view but I want phase 2 to be in halftone. There only seems to be manipulation of graphics for New, Existing and Demolished.
@smurck , the best process I've found for that is to stack views on sheets. Setup a view for each phase, set the phase filter to Show New. Then adjust the overrides per view for how you'd like each phase to be seen. Once you have each view setup, place them on the sheet on top of each other.
And I believe that having the ability to filter by phase would also solve this issue/tedious workardound.
I have working views, permit views and install views of duct. In the working view I want to be able to have phase 1 be full tone and phase 2 be half tone. I want to see both without doing some sort of overlay. It looks like this simple thing is not possible.
@smurck , nope, not possible currently. That is one of the MANY reasons this Idea exists. It's a limitation with the way that the current phasing system is setup and it's not great.
I agree that view filters by category and filters for phases are different ideas (I want both!) I don't want to have 30 filters for phased items, just the 5 or so a view might need. Phase settings by category (preferably with a way to set a default and then override) would be very helpful to manage details like transparency. While having existing as grey is great, I still want existing glass to be transparent. I can't get that currently (except with nested shared parameters and custom parameters), I can only turn off the glass subcategory in the view, which isn't ideal.
