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Option to move a wall independently from other walls

Option to move a wall independently from other walls

Currently:  I have a wall on the 1st floor that is close to a wall on the 2nd floor.  When I move the wall on the 1st floor, the wall on the 2nd floor moves too.  I cannot find the association between the two when using the "reveal constraints" tool.

 

I understand that this has benefits if walls are stacked and you want to move them all.  However, when desiging one of a few scenarios can happen:

  • Two walls are supposed to be stacked and aligned, but they are slightly misaligned.  The only way to fix this is to cut a section through those walls and use the align tool to get them into alignment.  Users who are unaware often move the 1st floor wall to where it's supposed to be but don't realize the wall on the 2nd floor moved too.
  • Two walls are not supposed to be stacked and aligned, but during design they move around and get close and revit assumes they should be related.  And when you move one wall the other wall moves without notice. If you realize this is happening, then you can use the move command with the "disjoin" option selected, which will break the relationship between the walls, BUT it also breaks the relationship between that wall and any roofs, ceilings, or floors that were attached to it.

I need the option to move a wall without moving other adjacent walls while keeping roof, ceiling, and floor relationships.  I think the simplest way to add this feature is to include an option called "Move Independently" to the move command options:

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This option would allow us to move the wall without other walls moving, but it would keep the relationship of roofs, ceilings, and floors that were created using the "pick wall" tool.

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@libengan , can I ask what version of Revit you are using? And can you give a visual of the wall overlap or proximity? I'm having a hard time replicating this in Revit 2026.

libengan
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@kimberly_fuhrman-jones ,  sure I'm using 2026.3.

 

I've attached a sample project exhibiting the behavior.  In the 3D view you'll see examples of stacked walls that are connnected and disconnected from floor to floor.  I did not join any walls, or use the align tool, and the connected walls cannot be unjoined (to my knowledge) without using the disjoin option in the move command.  Unfortunately the disjoin option also disconnects the roof from the wall being moved.

 

libengan_0-1759505115598.png

 

 

I cannot figure out exactly what causes revit to connect stacked walls.  In this project, the connected walls were copy/pasted from Level 1 to Level 2.  The disconnected walls were drawn independently - however I have seen Revit connect stacked walls even when they are drawn independently without copy/paste, but the behavior is inconsistent (I almost never copy/paste from floor to floor and it still happens in most of my projects).  It's a real pain when it happens though and I can't disconnect them without using disjoin when moving because it affects more than the stacked walls.

 

To be honest, I wish I could turn off this stacked join behavior globally because it's almost always more of an annoyance than anything.  I understand not everyone may feel this way, so it would be great if we could control the behavior.  In our office, we create reference planes at the core face of all structural walls so we can easily see if walls are in the right spot from floor to floor (we're residential and reference planes are more versital than column grids), and the stacked join behavior discussed here is a big headache for our team.

 

Thanks.

We will keep your Idea (it is a good one!), but I would also encourage you to file a problem report in your Autodesk account as this might be a bug. I was able to create two walls on each level, one on top of the other or align them and move them still independently, so yes, there is something weird going on there.

If it's a bug, it's an always there bug, because when I was modeling architecture back in Revit 2020, that behaviour was prety much common place... Fortunatly not many projects were complicated to the point of having those necessary disalignments between floors (more common when doing remodeling of existing buildings), but still something to be aware of everytime, and the reason why I always worked with 3D and a section in the second monitor - we never know what Revit is moving behind the scenes.

My trick to stop the not intended movement we pinning the problematic wall(s), after undoing the first move and detecting the problem...

 

I agree with this idea! Hope it's get implemented and be used as the default behaviour - if I want to move all walls I would select them all in a section or 3D - or lock the alignment.

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