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New style to define window types, mullions etc.

New style to define window types, mullions etc.

Hi folks,

Few days ago i talk with a company with spezialisation in softwaredevelopment to calculate windows, facades, doors or glassroofs..(Logical). They told me, that they have a very awesome tool to creat every kind of window in seconds in Revit.

 

please look the video - i love this tool - it is a musthave for the REVIT CORE

 

 

sorry, i started this idea in the community-idea-forum. but here it is right. I hope for your votes.

 

Great regard
Heinrich Boldt
Germany, Osnabrück 🙂

14 Comments
heinrich.boldt
Collaborator

Hi folks,

Few days ago i talk with a company with spezialisation in softwaredevelopment to calculate windows, facades, doors or glassroofs..(Logical). They told me, that they have a very awesome tool to creat every kind of window in seconds in Revit.

 

please look the video - i love this tool - it is a musthave for the REVIT CORE

 

 

Developer of this tool is orgadata in Germany

 

Great regards

 

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Keith_Wilkinson
Advisor

This looks very interesting indeed.  To have something like this built in to Revit where you can define your own window types, mullions etc would be very useful.  Currently we are trying to take a similar approach but without this degree of automation.

Chris_D_UK
Advocate

The Revit user interface needs much more power for users to be able to design core building elements quickly and easily, without coding or making very complex families. This plug-in shows that it's possible with the current software architecture to do just that.

heinrich.boldt
Collaborator

sorry, i started a new idea, because this is the Community-Idea-Forum 😞

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/new-style-to-define-window-types-mullions-etc/idi-p/69615...

 

please vote there.

 

@Admin please summit it with the new one

cretzeng
Explorer

Yes, something like this is just what Revit needs to be moving towards. Simplicity, flexibility, speed, and most importantly, a single interface.

I would love to see Revit stop thinking of windows, doors, casework.... you name it...... as individual components that get inserted into a file and start thinking of them as collection of objects that should have a common interface where changes can be made simply and quickly. The ability to create and modify Families shouldn't require a external specialist, it should be something the program has the ability to do internally and built into the core of the product itself.

 

A good analogy with today's Revit might be when the internet first came out and everyone had to know HTML in order to code and create even the simplest webpage. Now everything is WYSIWYG and even the most complex web pages can be created by someone with little or no experience with the code that creates it. The video above shows that the same WYSIWYG approach could be applied to Revit.

 

A common interface for every component type would make Revit so much more productive. In the end, I don't want to have to know how to modify Families in order to make the program work fast and efficiently; I just want Revit to work fast and efficiently out-of-the-box so that I can get back to my design work.

Keith_Wilkinson
Advisor

Personally I like having access to family editor and the flexibility to be able to build whatever the project demands but it's not always the easiest for other users to make fundmental amendments and I think being able to package the family like this would be a big advantage.

pieter7
Advisor

It would be interesting to have a "window builder", "door builder" in combination with a button "convert to family" when you want to edit it in detail. Maybe similar to how we can convert component stairs to stair by sketch.

 

 

GA-LT
Advocate

Hi, all standard architectural elements like doors, windows, stairs etc should be standardized and those kind of  tools (stair builder, window builder, door builder) must be implemented to Revit. Why we need to waste time to make them from scratch. Now we have hundreds of companies that make for example doors and most of them are useless and have trillions of different parameters - simple not possible to control or rebuild.  Great idea to stop family mess  in Revit!!

 

Keith_Wilkinson
Advisor

Even with the addition of this type of tool you would still need the ability to build from scratch.  You can't 'standardise' architecture... 

heinrich.boldt
Collaborator

This Windows from the tool are separate Window-Families, you can change them in the Family-editor all time.


Facades are Windows too - not Curtain Walls - as i see. but in future?

 

I think, this tool can help many people to work with more efficiency. create different windows without build a spezial Family.

GA-LT
Advocate

Hi, not "'standardise' architecture... " but architectural elements. 99% of them ale almost the same all over the world but also have possibility to make some custom elememets with parameters that Revit allows us now will be great.

Keith_Wilkinson
Advisor

Windows vary more than just about any other element between designs.

 

This tool needs to be a 'wrapper' for existing families - ie a high level way of controlling the window assembly but we need to have full control of how it operates in exactly the same way we do with standard window families. 

cretzeng
Explorer

I would think that a tool like this would do the exact opposite of standardization; it would allow the creation of custom designed windows, doors, cabinets.... etc.... quickly and easily. While windows are certainly one facet of this I think the Factory should be looking at evolving families away from the individual approach of inserting one element at a time (or worse yet, realizing the family is not in your template and having to dig down into your hardrive to find & insert it into the project) and look at them as a collective family environment controlled within one dialogue box (RevitWorks Door Factory is an example of the direction this could take). Families, their insertion, customization, and production are extremely inefficient right now and could become much better if included as part of the program itself. 

 

Having the elements grouped together (ie. windows or doors or casework) and 'customizable' under one collective roof would make the program exceptionally more productive and allow those of us without the time or budget for custom families the ability to create our own.

GA-LT
Advocate

"quickly and easily " - this is what Revit do not allow us now but standardization in my opinion is that in all doors or windows always we have Width, Height, Frame Width or hundreds of parameters that everyone who makes families make by it's own imagination (mostly in a hurry so the results are more funny than professional). Why not to make it visually clear and fast - not '80s style table editor like we have now.

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