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New grips for families: angle, drag, etc

New grips for families: angle, drag, etc

When creating a family, "handles" can be displayed for "instance parameters". This is convenient for changing "in place". But I can only use handles for "Length"!

grips.png

 

For example, AutoCAD has a larger selection of various grips: 

grips2.png

 

Please add a similar functionality to Revit!

10 Comments
cprettyman
Collaborator

Not all families are lined based, and not all dimensions are linear (some are angular, or radius/diameter.  It would be great if, when creating those parameters, there was an option to enable grip based editing.

Anonymous
Not applicable

Are you aware that most of what you want is already available?  The grips appear if the parameter is defined as Instance and there is a reference plane associated with that instance dimension.  Depending on your goal, you may run into some problems with overlapping reference planes "breaking" a family (we had issues with a cabinet base side inset as an instance parameter) but with careful content management, you can get to 90% of what you want.

cprettyman
Collaborator
Really? - I spent the last 3 days building families and never saw the grips. It could be because we have to build everything in the oldest release we use (2014) and then make up saved copies.

If it's there in the newer releases and I just didn't notice, that's awesome.

But I still want the other 10%
Anonymous
Not applicable

Something else must be happening.  I have been building content for 10 years and have many, many families that are not line-based that have grips available in a project.  I would be happy to share an example but it does not appear that this forum allows that.  Are you sure you are using instance parameters?  And you are not in a 3D view?

 

Here is a screen shot showing what I mean.

 

Grips.png

 

 

cprettyman
Collaborator
I think I realized what my V-8 moment on this is (will confirm tomorrow)
Everything I've been working on this week involves a lot of nesting. So there's an instance parameter in a top level family, that is linked to a parameter in a nest family. If there are no labeled dimensions in the top leve family, I'm not surprised that nothing shows.
So there's the 10% that's missing - passing the linked instance parameters through to the project.
Extraneous
Advisor
Strange discussion. Obviously, you can create "handles" in families, if this is an instance parameter, set to "Reference plane" or "Reference line" (by the way, the Reference line handles are displayed in 3D view, if you did not know). But this is not enough. I would like to see the "handles" for changing diameter, angle, checkbox for inclusion - near to the family, and I did not have to search for the parameter in the "Properties".
lionel.kai
Advisor

@Anonymous Yes, you can get linear dimension grips and basic flip controls (which I'd say is more like 80%), but the OP is asking for angular, checkbox (which would be pretty cool - I hadn't thought of that), etc. I'm thinking also a list pull-down would be nice (but would require Combo box for parameter attributes [UNDER REVIEW] first).

 

@Extraneous BTW, as a workaround for the diameter, you could probably just link it to a regular linear dimension... and thanks for pointing out the Reference Line handle in 3D! That's kinda odd - I wonder why they expose that, but not Reference Planes...

Curty102
Enthusiast
It would be sweet if geometry objects (like user created oversized arrows) could be designated as grips and specified to not print. This could make family instances much more user friendly.
benj
Enthusiast

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Hi Guys. i have the same issue. Since we share files amongst modelers, i received the file that need editing in the Transom. They previously have grips that can be dragged. When i updated the transom profile (circled @ all corners), the grip was gone. What happened? thanks for your reply...

lionel.kai
Advisor

@benj You'll probably need to post the before and after families. Also, it sounds more like you should create a new post in the support forum instead of tacking on to an idea.

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