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move directly a parameter to the top/end of a list.

move directly a parameter to the top/end of a list.

A button to move directly a parameter to the top/end of a list. Useful in case you have to deal with a large amount of parameter list.

2024-09-17 09_36_49-Schedule Properties.png

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Moving a parameter from the bottom of the list to the top using the 'Move Up' arrow takes a lot of mouse clicking.
Trying a Drag and Drop system maybe?

On top of the Alphabetical and Move function.

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J.Dirkse
Enthusiast

You can use the shortcuts Alt + U to move a parameter up and Alt + W to move it down.  (only the left Alt)

But you cannot change the group with these shortcuts.

Anonymous
Not applicable

This function allows you to move the parameter by 1 position. If you have a parameter list within one group of maybe 20 lines and you want to re-order them in a specific way. Using a system like Drag and Drop is much easier then clicking for 3 minutes.

ipselute
Advisor

@J.Dirkse: These shortcuts are not very handy to me. Not even for a left-handed person. We should use HOME, END, PAGE UP, PAGE DOWN keys instead. E.g. To move a parameter to the start of the list press HOME, to move a parameter to the end of the list press END, to move a parameter 3 positions up press PAGE UP, to move a parameter 3 positions down press PAGE DOWN. I find this solution to be more handy and easier to use.

 

sabeel.shaik
Contributor

I strongly agree and always wanted to drag and drop parameters up and down.

AlexDT
Advocate

in addition, renaming parameternames without opening the edit menu.

Meelis123
Enthusiast

Not just family parameters. Other places too, like when creating schedules and sorting fields for example. To sum it up:

Everything that can (and has to) be reordered in Revit should have drag&drop AND sort alphabetical function.

Zwielehner
Advocate

Hi @Anonymous , @Meelis123 ,

 

We are currently working on a property palette replacement that allows you exactly this, including a search function (it's easier to type in a few letters than scrolling up and down). You can also toggle between a flat list and categorized list (we are working on custom / multiple groups, too, which makes it very flexible). If you are interested in participating as an early adaptor just let me know.

 

Regards,

Thomas

DRB_SA_BimManager
Participant

Can't believe this has so few likes.  Parameter management is remarkably poor in the family editor.  I always try to arrange and order parameters to make it easy for people to use the family in the project.  And this means moving a ton of things around, one mouse click at a time.   And if someone clicks the button to sort alphanumerically, you'll have to spend another two hours clicking the up and down arrows.  

 

I'd like to see:

  1. Duplication of a parameter places the new one below the old one
  2. Allow multi-selection to move parameters
  3. Allow click and drag to reorder parameters
  4. Allow locking of parameter order via checkbox
  5. If you've moved parameters around, hitting ESC while editing should have a pop-up 'Do you want to save changes to parameters?
  6. It's a pipe dream, but would love to be able to create parameter groups with different color sections.  

 

lionel.kai
Advisor

@DRB_SA_BimManager 97 votes is planny, actually. But even then, I think we're all just so happy to finally have the arrows...

 

It WOULD be great to be able to add custom parameter groups (and be able to determine the placement of those groups, at least - not sure about OOTB ones...) - maybe as sub-groups to the OOTB groups? As a workaround, for one family I made "header/separator" parameters that had a bunch of hyphens and the text in the name & text contents (set from a formula).

It is a great idea that would improve loads user experience if added to all the parameters lists within Revit.
It is either drag and drop or the multi-selection behaviour that you get when working with parameters in a schedule.
In a family, it is mental having to do all that clicking:

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In a schedule, it's much easier, but it is not really intuitive behaviour.

PieterL_TM
Advocate

Just being able to drag would be nice (also to different groups)

BIM-Lord
Participant

If you have a list of 10 paramters, and wish for the bottom parameter to be on top. Just shift-select the 9 other and press "move down" once? The 9 selected are moved bellow the 10th.

 

Andrej.Licanin
Advocate

So i have this problem alot, especially when working with mutliple companies on iteration of models. Each add their own parameters. eventualy you have to scroll on each element to find the parameter you are looking for to fill it out.

This slows your workflow by alot, especialy if you are just looking for some value.

A solution for this would be just to have a separate window, like quick parameter browser, there you type in the name of the parameter and when an element is selected in that window it will display the values. You should be able do this for multiple parameters, so it should have a + button to add them. Here is an image mockup.
Parameter values should update when you have something selected.
2024-10-15 08_40_43-Untitled Diagram - draw.io.png

 

 

zcallaway
Explorer

Piggybacking onto this. Having the ability to add custom parameters grouping (or parameter headers) and potentially a hidden or automatically collapsed group would be extremely helpful for user experience

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