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Mesh Modeling Is Crucial In Design

Mesh Modeling Is Crucial In Design

This has been a huge issue in the Revit community for years. Every designer or studio does not ONLY use vector based design. The hallmark of a COMPLETE modeling software program is flexibility and adaptability with either Mesh or Vector. Sometimes modeling mesh is 1000% easier than trying to use mass and reference planes for EVERYTHING. This is the only reason I still have a subscription to 3DS max. So is it just about subscriptions? I’ve literally been searching for work arounds for this since 2014. It really feels as if this is purposely being ignored and we can’t for the life of us figure out why. Revit costs thousands of dollars to use. Other Autodesk products cost thousands of dollars to use. It would be beyond helpful if Revit was a one stop shop where workflow is linear without extra unnecessary detours with other programs that should not be necessary. Revit is an industry standard now, but it doesn’t feel like it because of the limited options for mesh modeling. I understand the whole Dynamo thing, but everyone does not have time to learn essentially a whole new plugin. Seriously, how long would it take to implement this feature with smoothing options just like in 3DS Max, which you all make? - Best

6 Comments
mhiserZFHXS
Advisor

Do you stick a plow on the front of a Toyota Camry to farm? Do you drive a tractor to work?

 

These two modeling systems are completely different, and shouldn't be incorporated together. You have the option to import mesh items, as you mentioned, and that's how it should stay.

 

Is it fair to be critical of the subscription based model and having to pay so much? Sure, but that's a different issue.

ericpolite
Observer
I really appreciate the PROFESSIONALISM of your reply. Very classy thanks.
mhiserZFHXS
Advisor

Making comparisons is not unprofessional. I'm sorry that this is your response to someone being critical of your idea, and explaining why it probably won't happen.

ericpolite
Observer
It is the way in which we do things that matter, but to keep this on track,
in answering your question, yes, if I needed to put a plow on a Camry to
get the job done, yes, I'd do it. If I needed to drive a tractor to work,
yes I'd do it. Fusion 360, an Autodesk product I use, allows for both mesh
and vector. From a workflow standpoint, it would be easier to have this
same level of workflow. This is mainly a documentation issue with revit,
since most architectural documents today are produced using Revit and would
be exceedingly easy to use one software program. I do appreciate the
response to a valid query. Thanks.
mhiserZFHXS
Advisor

I didn't ask if you can do those things. Of course you CAN. But a car wouldn't be good at plowing a field, even with a plow. And driving a tractor to work would take up two lanes of traffic and waste a ton of fuel. Autodesk COULD (probably?) add mesh modeling support to Revit. But it'd take a whole lot of resources, and it'd probably weigh down an already not wonderfully put together program.

 

The main issue here is that there are a ton of other improvements that could be made to Revit that are desperately needed, rather than adding something that you can do in another program that is specifically built to do that other thing.

 

I think the other misconception here, that I see all of the time, is that Revit is primarily a modeling program. Its not. Its a documentation program. It utilizes 3D modeling in order to improve that documentation. The vector based modeling that it provides accomplishes 95% of user needs for that documentation (minimum, its 100% for us).

 

I would not be upset if this were magically added to the program. Its just that there are dozens and dozens of other improvements that really need to be put in place that will have a far more significant impact on the workflows for all users, and doing this would cut into the resources needed for those other improvements.

ericpolite
Observer
I do agree with you. More of a desired item moving forward as technology
increases and processors increase in speed with more ram. I guess my issue
is about streamlining workflow, as it is usually a one hour task to import
mesh into a "family" so that it can be cut, but have to do a lot of
modifier adjustments in Max before I import into Revit.

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