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Mark a Parameter as Hidden or Disabled

Mark a Parameter as Hidden or Disabled

There are times that I need one dimension to be relative to another dimension. But I don't want the user to change this dimension. There are times when it's ok for them to SEE it but then there are times that I don't even want them to see it either.

Example: SideA = 1, SideB = SideA * 1.5 (SideB should ALWAYS be one and half times SideA).

 

Proposed Workflow:
Create the parameter and in the properties, there would a Visibility property (for the parameter itself). Options would be: Normal (default), Hidden or Disabled.

 

This would allow me to avoid having to create parameters with names like "SideB - DO NOT MODIFY" and then HOPING that the user doesn't modify it.

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Howard_Wayne
Explorer

So many years have passed and so many versions have been released, but there is still no function for hiding parameters in families...

Thats sad..

Pretty frustrating to see this thread originated in 2016 and there's nothing. Just make a category for "Group parameter under" drop down menu called "Hidden" and then it doesn't show up in the properties palette when loaded into a project. Seems pretty easy and something people want to see. Currently I put things under "Other" and there is a long list of greyed parameters that are seemingly meaningless to anyone using my family but they are necessary for all the different options the family may provide. Also as others pointed out there are many formula based parameters that any end user could just screw with that are not necessary to be shown or visible to them for type and instance.

Mike.FORM
Advisor

This would definitely be a nice feature to make families and parameters more readable. Complicated families can get pretty overwhelming with all the helper parameters needed to make things function correctly.

 

As for the "Side B = Side A * 1.5", the issue is that parameters only grey out when the formula references 2 or more other parameters.

How I deal with this is I will add a "Lock" integer parameter and set the formula for that to just be "1", then I will use that parameter to multiply any unlocked parameters with.

The final formula would end up being "Side B = Side A * 1.5 * Lock", this would then grey the parameter out because the formula now references 2 parameters.

 

MikeFORM_0-1731438510491.png

 

Howard_Wayne
Explorer

In addition, for better organization of families. Please give me the ability to choose which scrolls to show in the properties if I never need a scroll P Parameters IFC For example, give the ability to hide this group of parameters in the family properties menu, in the side menu If I never, ever use the settings in this group, make settings for the properties menu so that I can turn off the visibility of those groups of settings that I never, ever use(the cherry on the cake would be to be able to create your own parameter groups, but that's madnes (he he.... [Sad smile])

Ric_Weber
Collaborator

@Howard_Wayne I'm not sure what you mean by "scrolls"?  "...never need a scroll P Parameters IFC"? 

 

This idea is regarding being able to hide specific parameters. @patrickwelchRQMHX suggested having an entire hidden group, which is along the same lines and would help make this idea work, but I'm not understanding what scrolling has anything to do with this?  Perhaps your suggestion needs to be a separate idea?  But I'll need better understanding first to make that determination.  

Keith_Wilkinson
Advisor

I was interpreting 'scrolls' as just a means to describe the grouping and the fact you can 'roll' them up.  But I could be wrong.

Howard_Wayne
Explorer

Hi @Keith_Wilkinson @Ric_Weber!)
Please forgive my poor knowledge of English)
By "scrolls" i meant collapsible lists of parameter groups in the family properties menu.
Each group has its own naming. And there are some groups of parameters that i never ever use.
For example, the "Identity Data" parameter group.
https://imgur.com/a/Vnv3ZOg
Be able to hide this group of parameters in the customization menu of the family properties window.
When i make my families, i use only a few groups of parameters - One for dimensions, the second for element visibility (True/False), the third - optionally, for parameters that are only for schedule.
So everything else, i don't need in the family properties menu, and if i just collapsed the parameter groups,
it won't help, with each new selection of the family, these groups are displayed again in their original form.
Therefore, i suggested introducing the possibility of customizing the display of parameter groups, the ability to turn off groups that i never use.
So that unnecessary information of parameters, does not occupy the space of the family properties window.

Keith_Wilkinson
Advisor

Yeah, makes sense.  I think having one specific group that wasn't visible in the main project would tick the box for me but I'm sure opinions on this would vary.

Ric_Weber
Collaborator

@Howard_Wayne, that makes sense now.  Thank you.  It definitely pertains to this idea.  So you'd like to be able to have a hidden grouping, but also, be able to hide any of the default groupings as well.  Being able to delete those default parameters or change the grouping of those default parameters would do the trick there.  There are ideas out there surrounding that topic as well that you might want to vote for.  I know I have.  

Ric_Weber
Collaborator

@Howard_Wayne in your example, you state you'd like to do away with the Identity Data grouping??  I think you'll find you have a hard time to get rid of that one.  So you're saying you never use Type Mark, Mark, Comments, Type Comments, Worksets, etc.?  

Howard_Wayne
Explorer

Thank you very much @Ric_Weber and @Keith_Wilkinson!
There are many ideas that come to mind when you encounter a problem working with Revit,
but every time you open the browser, you stop. Thinking, "Anyway, people smarter and more experienced than me have noticed this for a long time, they have already created a discussion thread and offered a dozen solutions, so close the browser, son." And this case was no exception))
In any case, thank you very much to @Ric_Weber for helping to bring the idea to a more or less understandable and intelligible level!)

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