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I build a lot of parametric families for the company I work for, quite literally 1,000's per year.  I take it as a personal challenge to make a part with the least number of user inputs and the greatest amount of accuracy I can.  The screenshot below is an example of a Medical Gas alarm panel, 3 of them actually.  Of course it's a parametric model, based on the number of nozzles it has, they change dimension in the X and Y axis, and number of ports available.  

 

It would make families much cleaner in these situations if a connector can be turned off or disabled from use, driven by check mark, or any other method of formula to automate this!  This would also reduce confusion to our detailers having random floating connectors they aren't supposed to use anyway.

 

I realize I could save copies of each version with the connectors deleted and additional nozzles deleted, but come on, we could also just stay detailing with AutoCAD and inserting dumb (stupid) blocks, because that's essentially the same thing.

 

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Hi folks,

Few days ago i talk with a company with spezialisation in softwaredevelopment to calculate windows, facades, doors or glassroofs..(Logical). They told me, that they have a very awesome tool to creat every kind of window in seconds in Revit.

 

please look the video - i love this tool - it is a musthave for the REVIT CORE

 

 

sorry, i started this idea in the community-idea-forum. but here it is right. I hope for your votes.

 

Great regard
Heinrich Boldt
Germany, Osnabrück :)

Lets start with telling me dynamically if I am routing through different (selectable) elements, like beams, columns, pipes and ducts but not walls. Its important for this to work with Linked files and highlight them on the fly. 

 

Secondly, routing solutions should avoid these items as well (with a toggle). Solutions generated should route around other elements without creating a clash. Waypoints could help this process by creating 3d locations that you would like to route through (like an opening you would like to route through).

 

At a deeper level we should start thinking of ways to implement Local and international code based rules into Architectural & MEP modeling. For example trap arm distances for plumbing. or stay within 1-5/8" of the bottom of deck, or offset around structural elements and other MEP systems, pipe slope based on size, distance and system type. Rules that can be dictated and changed and warn your when there is a violation. 

If we are going for pie-in-the-sky- revit could use a major overhaul (Revit user since 2006)

 

This is in 5 parts:

  1. Family categories open for editing/purging -base system components remain with GUIDs intact
    • Family-dependent subcategories with their own GUID- Creating "door.frame" makes the "frame" compatible with all "door" family types, scheduled by its own subtype, or as a subtype of door (e.g. door schedule parameter door.frame[all subcategories of door available here to door.frame]
  1. Linetypes editable//accessible by GUID in the linetype editor:
    • Show/ Use [None |<System> | NickName |  Generative]
      1. None= not allowed/shown for use in this project
      2. <System>=use default system name (greyed out for non-system items)
      3. NickName to show user-defined names for sets
      4. Generative = use generative system to generate names and sets (Given formula and data generate line type and name them by a formula)
    • Substitute Linteype (For each non-conforming linetype)
      1. Map unused linetypes to the next adjacent
      2. Map imported mismatched linetypes to those allowed
      3. [conform] to permanently re-map the linetype
      4. [Save] list mappings [GUIDs -> Remapped]
  1. All components are shared and reliant upon #1 to identify family sub-content. Sub-content can be brought into a family along with generic annotations.
  2. Open database allows for any component and host components in families to be referenced using intellisense. E.g. in a door family, the "host<WALL>.structure.core.width" is accessible as a variable, as would be " host<WALL>.structure.core[1].material.identity.type
  3. Database integrated and accessible on a LIVE bases - e.g. Built into SQL
    • where database can be queried,
    • or manipulated by an outside source.
    • Common database lookup could provide 'open source' subfamilies with common GUIDs provided VIA blessed content by Autodesk for use by all (Translated options available for "Nicknames" - GUIDS remain the same for same content- us Machine learning to map across languages and concepts).

VB style formulas with VB functions (Including concatenate, string manipulation and REGEX!)

 

All menu and components can be modified/remapped - e.g.

  • coarse/med/fine can be remapped and supplemented: LOD100<Coarse>, LOD200<med>, LOD300, LOD400<fine>, LOD500
  • Profiles and other components can tie into this system using the <SYSTEM> names or NickNames (Nick names appears on the list)

And soforth- a complete overhaul.

 

Create Reference Planes in 3D view

Status: Gathering Support
by Mentor on ‎03-22-2017 12:49 AM

When dealing with complex geometry, it is crucial to be able to create Reference Planes in 3D view, by either pick a pre-existing planar face, or pick 3 points (similar to AutoCAD's 3-point UCS).  

Dear Autodesk,

 

Please allow us to add multiple links at one time, this is when links share the same shared coordinates system or insertion point.

 

We work on large scale projects with sometime 35-70 links, the files are nested with shared coordinates, When creating master plans or nesting the consultants files it would be fantastic if I could link in one go rather than having to link one at a time.

 

Even if the links needed to be moved to the correct internal location, linking multiple would save us time.

 

Thanks, and I hope others would love this function too!

Revit needs to come up with more comprehensive definitions on curtain wall’s reference plane and offsets of mullions and panels.  Currently, there are simply too many variables that can confuse the users.  For example, the offset of mullions is described as being measured from panels, but this is not accurate because the panels themselves can be offset from the reference line.  It also depends on how the mullion profile is drawn in the profile family; Revit's default rectangular mullion profile, which cannot be accessed for editing, is centered on the curtain wall reference plane.  But a custom mullion profile using the profile-mullion family template can be drawn off-centered, such that the center line of front/back can be conceived as the face of glass, if the relationship of the glass and the mullion is so designed.

 

The confusion arises from the too many variables that are loosely (or wrongly) defined.  What Revit should do is to come up with a common rule and eliminate few variables.  For example, Revit can eliminate the offset parameter of the mullion profile and instead let the position of the mullion defined in the profile.  Or Revit can rule that the face of panel is always be aligned and locked in with the curtain wall reference plane, while the users can control the offset of the mullions.  Once the variables are minimized and the rule is set up, it is easy for the users to understand the absolute reference from which every curtain wall elements are measured from.

This will lessen the misguided modelling of the curtain walls which can be prevalent in the work-sharing nature of the Revit model.

Any project with plan angles other than 90 degrees inevitably ends up with modeled elements off axis.....this usually starts with walls being slightly off with an angle like 30.000000001 which is just enough to completely screw up the entire model....other model elements snap to this wall and suddenly elevations are messed up, you can't snap dimensions, etc. etc.  And it propagates through the entire model very quickly.  Sometimes you don't even know until it's too late because dimensions always round to whatever precision they're settings are set to and will tell you the angle is 30 degrees when it's really not EXACTLY 30 degrees.

 

When this happens I wish for a rotation parameter/property - similar to AutoCAD.  When you select an element, any kind of element - system family, component family, etc., it should have a parameter for rotation displayed on the properties palette.  Then you can see if it is anything other than EXACTLY 30 degrees and if it is something weird like 30.xxx-xxxxxxxx then you can click in that field and CHANGE the rotation to EXACTLY 30 degrees with 100% precision.  This would fix the "slightly off axis" problem.....and the domino effect of problems that follow....

Wall Base Parameter

Status: Gathering Support
by Contributor richc on ‎03-24-2017 10:58 AM

We would like to request a wall base (sweep) parameter within the wall family in Revit. A simple toggle to turn on/off a sweep or set of sweep options that could be used as base in a project. Having a wall family with this on/off parameter would be substantial in visualization, QC and overall accurate 3D models going forward.

Currently, when in the family environment, we can "Paint" surfaces of elements with Family [material] Parameters using the Paint tool.

 

What we need is the ability to do the same thing with Global [material] Parameters in the project environment.

 

For example, I can create a Global Parameter called "Dining Room Paint" and paint that parameter on all the Dining Room walls.  That way, when the client changes the paint color in the Dining Room, all I have to change is the Global Parameter.  Right now, I have to either have a Material dedicated to "Dining Room Paint" (and clog up the already slow material browser), or I have to go repaint all the Dining Room walls with the new color.

 

This feature would also allow us to synchronize our finish schedule with our model since we already create global parameters for all the room finishes and link our Room family parameters to those global parameters (this comes in handy for reporting room finishes in the schedule and keeping the cabinets and trim modeled in each room consistent with the schedule)

Integrated Detail Components

Status: Gathering Support
by Participant KellyASmith on ‎03-21-2017 02:11 PM

I have been using Revit for almost a decade and I have to say one of the most obvious things that could be a real time-saver would be 2 options in the materials dialog for cut patterns. 1 for a horizontal or "plan" cut and one for a vertical or "section" cut. Obviously detail components will always be needed for detailing, but wouldn't it be awesome if the fill patterns on the section cuts actually represented the materials for things like brick or block. Even if it wasn't a pattern but a way to associate specific detail components with that particular material. 

This can already be done in regular families, as well as some system families floors and roofs with deck profiles. From a programming standpoint Im sure it would be difficult but I'm sure it could be done. 

Line Styles, Weight & Colour

Status: Gathering Support
by Advocate Simon_Weel on ‎03-21-2017 01:36 AM

If you need a Line Pattern with different weight, you have to create a Line Style for every Line Weight. This can result in LOTS of Line Styles, which isn't very handy. One could use Override by Element to set a different line weight / colour but the problem is: there's no easy way to spot an elements override. A solution would be to display a lines colour and weight in the Properties Panel, with the ability to change those values.

After loading a topography from DWG or Civil Structures Extension, they load into Revit with an undesired boundary shape.

By now we can define the boundary of toposurface by splitting the topography, because you can't change interior points into boundary points. I would like to overcome this workaround and draw or change the toposurface boundariesinto the topography sketch mode.

Naming Plan Regions?

Status: Gathering Support
by Community Visitor jennifers_eua_com on ‎03-16-2017 12:42 PM

It would be so great to name or add comments to a plan region. 

 

Has anyone had success?

 

I am thinking of when you are working collaboratively, or even working on a long-term project by yourself; and you come across a plan region.  There is no way to discern what you are concealing / exposing / intentionally displaying without cutting the plan region, taking a quick look, and then repasting it back to it's original location to regain the plan region visibility. 

 

You can name scope boxes (different animal, I know).  You can obviously name levels (getting warmer).  I can't even group plan regions to name them through a group package. 

 

Perfect scenario, hovering over a plan region or selecting it would display a name parameter. 

 

 

If anyone has thoughts, tweet me:  @jennifers_EUA

For Ducts and Cable Trays the Offset should follow the Vertical Justification. For Example, if you draw a Cable Tray with the vertikal justification "Bottom" and an offset of 23cm, the offset displayed is 28cm instead. For our MEP people the situation is always very unfavorable, since they never look at the middle axis, but always at the top or bottom edge of a cable tray or duct.

 

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Turn off the edges of topography

Status: Gathering Support
by Observer agilmartinJXV5J on ‎03-13-2017 09:58 AM - last edited on ‎03-14-2017 11:07 PM |

Can you give more control over the edges of topography so they can be turned off. Currently using a workaround to turn them white- not ideal.

It would be better for modeling contours if you could draw it by spline, isolines that enclose a region, and elevation points simultaneously.

Point are great but there is a lot of situations were the triangles that are generated by points don't behave the way you want without adding a bunch of points more.

Sloping reveal

Status: Gathering Support
by Explorer carolaaquino on ‎03-14-2017 08:34 AM

I would like the insertion of the inclined reveal on the wall, not just vertically or horizontally, as in the image below.

 

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HERE IS A LINK to an article and screencast which I created relating to this issue... 

 

The problem with aligned dimensions is that you struggle to reference to a proper or desired Reference Point when instances are not parallel to each other.

 

Another problem is that you do not have the option under general modeling to use/draw a "POINT" (Similar to the point reference option in AutoCAD).

 

There is only one place in Revit where a Point Reference is available which is under conceptual mass modeling or mass families. (See image below): 

 

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Furthermore, using mass point references is "messy" when used, so this is not an option or viable workaround at this stage. 

 

It should really not be difficult for the development team to implement the "Point" or "Point Reference" under the general Revit Draw Toolbox. It will resolve a couple of issues for software users and it will simplify certain workflows. This will be useful in all disciplines as I've longed for a Point in Revit on many occasions for various reasons. 

 

HERE IS JUST ANOTHER example of why the Point or Point Reference would be useful in the general Draw Toolbox of Revit. 

change hosting of a family

Status: Gathering Support
by Advocate yavork on ‎03-02-2017 01:37 PM

Please allow changing the hosting parameter of a Family - for example we have Floor based families and it is not easy to change the hosting to Face based or something else...

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