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It would be useful to be able to convert fabrication parts back into generic parts, aside from using the undo function. I would like to know if anyone knows how to do this.
May I ask why you would need to do this? What are you attempting to achieve? Is there a requirement you are trying to satisfy by switching from Fabrication pipe to Revit Pipe?
I ask these questions genuinely - no implied sarcasm or ill-intent. Just asking what the problem is...
The reason I would like to be able to do this is that I'm a novice Revit user. I am using a students version of Revit 2017. I took a class on Revit and used "Revit 2016 MEP Fundamentals" by SDC Publications. All of the work and features I used were based upon generic pipe. For example, converting pipe from generic to another type of material doesn't work on fabrication pipe- at least as far as I have tried. This makes me wonder if I'm looking at the limitations of my knowledge, asking the software to do something it can't do or, not asking the software in the right way (i.e.- strategy). I am a plumber and work in the construction field. I don't need to have the plans show realistic portrayals of the pipe since I already know what material we are installing. It is useful to be able to color code the systems like what is done initially before I translated it into fabrication parts. In other words, it seems that you can do some things with the model in generic pipe that you can't do with fabrication pipe.
Welcome to the wide world of Revit and I congratulate you on being a plumber and learning BIM tools (I'm a sheet metal worker by trade now working as a designer).
To color code your systems using FAB parts, you will need to learn about filters as right now they are the only method (to my knowledge) to affect FAB parts' color in the Revit environment.
Being able to convert fabrication to generic parts allows similar process within Revit that Fabrication CADmep has had for years called design line. A perfect example of when we would use this feature is if we draw a system as Carbon Steel and word comes down that it needs to be Stainless Steel. Currently our options are incredibly limited (and actually lead us to find a bug). We can either delete and redraw (OH HELLZ NO!) or we use Revit's awesome ability to "Revise It" and change the type. Since our systems often carry multiple types (PVC/Cast Iron, or Carbon Steel/Stainless Steel/Copper, etc.) we have this option within Revit. Here though is where we found our bug. Changing the type did not change the actual material and through the outside diameter of the pipe off, it wasn't anything outrageous but enough to be noticeable upon close inspection. Further it pushes this incorrect material down the system as you draw so even new Stainless Steel pipe has a material of Carbon Steel. Luckily we don't report the material for our BOMs or tags, however it is used by our hanger calculator to determine weight and spacing and this could cause a major problem.
If we could take our Carbon Steel pipe, convert to generic Revit pipe/fittings, then convert back to Fabrication pipe using Stainless Steel this would resolve the issue. Obviously it's better to do it right the first time, but we all know how these things can change part way through.
Thanks for taking the time to submit your idea. Unfortunately, this idea did not get the support of the community over the last 6 months and as such we will not be pursuing it at this time. Please feel free to rework (titles and clear descriptions are really important) and resubmit this one down the road.
I just received a "as built" revit model entirely made with MEP Fabrication Parts. My goal is to keep these models alive. Your "as built" model is always the start model for the next project manager. Ans in most large organizations, buildings are in constant evolution. Keeping models updated is a must.
That being said, at first glance, il looks to me that a revit model entirely made with MEP Fabrication Parts will be dependent on some contractor's configuration and possibly generate a lot of problems. My guess is that the client will end up paying someone to re-draw and re-model what has already once been modeled, but has been lost.
So having a way to convert MEP Fabrication Parts to design elements might enable a client to keep his model updated more easily.