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door swing/handing parameter and tag (left/right)

door swing/handing parameter and tag (left/right)

Hi, left /right parameter for door is absolutely crucial for me. I have to use dynamo for scheduling doors with left/right swing. Any hope to have it soon? 

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cees
Contributor

Just an instance parameter reporting mirrored true or false will do. This really should be a native Revit parameter. We don't want to count the original and mirrored/flipped copies manually, do we?

WojciechGodzinski
Enthusiast
Yeah. At least instance parameter reporting mirrored true or false.
cees
Contributor
There is another Idea post on the same subject.

Vote for that one also.



Regards,

Cees



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WojciechGodzinski
Enthusiast
will do.
WojciechGodzinski
Enthusiast
Cees, could you pls send me a link to the post you have referred to? Thanks, Wojciech
cees
Contributor
lukas-tunka
Contributor

It will be great to have a system parameter in door category that indicate orientation of a door. It is necessary to add this parameter into door schedule and it is uncomfortable to create a text parameter for door and write to it the correct orientation all the time when we change the door orientation in a layout. We need something automatic.

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MikaLei
Enthusiast

I think this is feature what people was asking many many years... But really it should be as basic feature of Revit, not through 3rd Party addin or Dynamo. Worst scenario what I have seen, people define manually is door handing left or right, not so BIM way..

WojciechGodzinski
Enthusiast
I've been asking for this since 2016. Autodesk is just doesn't seem to see a
problem. Instead I receive reseller satisfaction survey.
cees
Contributor

Is Autodesk looking at these posts at all? I doubt it. This issue is a serious one in the building business. We should be able to distinguish mirrored components from the original ones. This applies not only to doors and windows, but also to kitchen and all kinds of other equipment that a contractor has to order in the right orientation. It needs to be a native Revit parameter.

WojciechGodzinski
Enthusiast
I would be very much surprised if anybody is reading these posts. My first post concerning this topic is back from 2016. Obviously resellers are to blame for frustrating software.

prey
Community Visitor

I am aware that Revit has an internal parameter called "Mirrored", that can be accessed through programming, but I can't understand why this parameter is hidden...

andrewharle8552
Enthusiast

Amazing that Revit does not allow scheduling of the element's handing parameter HandFlipped, which exists in the database for the element.

 

Its a basic requirement for door schedules.

 

We don't want to have to rely on running a dynamo script to generate schedules form the model.

 

ArchiCAD has had this basic function for the last 20 years or more!

 

Come on Autodesk, use some common sense.

WojciechGodzinski
Enthusiast
I am thinking of switching to ArchiCad.
Jim_Melin
Advocate

I support this idea. But there are some more details that need to be considered for a working solution:

And I really think windows also would need this feature if it should be implemented. Preferably the exact same feature for both.


All doors/windows don't have swing direction, so how would door swing be set in neutral?


Or for vertical openings, awning or sliding?


Also existing door families in use can be (and have been) built to swing differently regarding exterior and interior which creates issues where the left/right swing might need to be switched to suit regional standards.

 

I work for a developer who has already made such an addin solution specifically for Swedish standards, including updating swing and reinterpreting swing for familes build in the opposite standard. So we are well aware of the complications.

ramon_pose
Explorer

I could imagine that this will decrease the file size as well (amount of geometry) instead of working with the visibility of multiple geometry

Mark_Engwirda
Collaborator

Hi @Jim_Melin, we might solve the neutral problem by using an additional "text" shared parameter.

The "hand flip" parameter would be either true or false.
By using a text parameter relying on either of the hand flip conditions can then have whatever text you would like to see in your schedules eg "Left" or "Right" as an example.

In the neutral families, you would still use that same "text" shared parameter for your schedules but use a blank string or whatever string of your choosing.
What that solve the neutral issue?

 

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