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Custom Insertion Point(s) for Leader Tag

Custom Insertion Point(s) for Leader Tag

It would be great if we can add custom insertion points for leader tags.

This would basically be an invisible dot you can place in your tag families.

 

I do realise you can create this effect with invisible lines, but it's a hassle!

When you have multi-line texts that wrap, it becomes very very hard. 

 

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36 Comentarios
lionel.kai
Advisor

@JLSMART I made a smaller weld symbol by replacing the nested families (you can't edit the ones there - you have to make new ones). The trick is finding the origin (which is some odd distance off the lines - insert a nested family to see what I mean). You can try deciphering some of my notes here: Weld_Symbol-KAI.rfa. I also made the line shorter, but couldn't quite get it to vary by instance (which we could easily do by stretching in AutoCAD) - will try again at some point.

isak.regnstrom
Explorer

I would like to add to this that controlling where the other end of the leader (or a tag without a leader) ends up when placed would be great!

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/specify-tag-insertion-point-of-a-family/idi-p/10531170

isak.regnstrom
Explorer

I would in addition to this like to see a way of specifying the location of the other end of the leader. Or the whole tag, when placed without a leader.

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/specify-tag-insertion-point-of-a-family/idi-p/10531170

Mike.FORM
Advisor

This is definitely a must. I would also like it if they added a control grip to the connecting end which could be adjusted same as the bend location and the arrow end. It should default to the top, right, bottom, left reference planes in the family and then center it on the edge of that defined rectangle.

 

Also as an additional it would be nice for tags with multiple leaders if you could control the arrow type individually for each arrow after placed using the default. This way you could have say an arrowhead and a dot on the same tag.

cprettyman
Collaborator

There are ideas already posted about defining where on an object a tag leader connects - this is one example

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/choose-where-to-tag-leaders-to/idi-p/6761764

I support those, I hope others will add some up votes.

 

This post is about the other side:  the tag

Imagine the typical room tag - a very common type has the room name above, and the room number, in a box, below.  If you pull the tag outside the room and add a leader, will come from the middle of the tag extents on one of the 4 sides.  But what if I want it to always come from the center of the box - regardless of whether the room name is one, two, or even three lines of text.  And, I may want to exclude leaders coming out of one side, or more.  EG, for the above mentioned room tag, I might not ever want the leaders to start from the top - the bottom might be OK, left and right are probably OK, but if the room is above the tag on the view, I would want the leader to come out from the side of the box, and then turn up.

Please allow us to define where the leaders connect - not just for room tags - I am sure that for every possible type of tag, someone needs to control where, exactly, the leaders begin.  

 

Evalucia
Enthusiast

Hi, there is a similar idea here :  "Leader Line" parameter in all tag families 

AL.78
Contributor

Any word from the Autodesk/Revit team on whether this is being reviewed? Seems like a small but critical fix

It's crazy that a fix for this still hasn't been implemented.  I've had to spend who knows how much inefficient time adjusting leaders to not look like a broken mess, when one of our tag labels was purposely hidden in many instances to save drawing space.

ks2_wmb
Advocate

Revit's current leader system is shown with black leaders, what I want is shown in red leaders.

ks2_wmb_2-1688065466282.png

 

Note that Text objects in tag families don't stretch the bounding box like this, but labels do.  In other words, the below family has a correct leader attachment because "TYP." is a text object, not a label.

 

ks2_wmb_1-1688065388117.png

 

ks2_wmb
Advocate

@kimberly_fuhrman-jones

 

Hi Kimberly, requesting a merge of several related threads into this thread:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/custom-insertion-point-s-for-leader-tag/idi-p/7364191

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/allow-custom-leader-connection-to-tag/idc-p/12070100

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/leader-origin-points-in-tags/idi-p/11009205

 

(I'm also sending you a request today for another set of tag leader threads, which are a completely different idea.  These threads are about the start of a leader.)

 

Thank you!

@ks2_wmb ,

 

Thank you!

crapai
Advocate

Any updates on this topic?

colinSRA
Advocate

I would also be interested in this functionality.
And I'm curious why "text" behaves differently than a "label" when determining the leader origin... I don't follow the logic.

matt
Explorer

Agree with custom base point for annotation tags and generic annotations.  This should be fixed.  I see the original post is from 2016... really, this couldn't have been fixed in 7 years!

_dalewfd
Enthusiast

Would love to know why some form of this functionality still isn't implemented. I'm guessing file compatibility issues and huge portions of the software being held together by band aids on band aids.

 

Which means, like many basic feature requests that have been around for years, we'll never see any improvement. 

brady.harkonen
Contributor

I had a chat with Autodesk support to report this as a bug. It is absolute insanity that you have to submit a feature request for requesting that they fix a bug. I request this feature that already exists is fixed so we can actually use it!!

 

Here is a forum post from 2007. That's how long Autodesk has known about this issue. I get that it might be low priority but we shouldn't have to wait 16 years for a bug fix. Even if it's intentionally designed the way it is, the feature is still broken if you have to use a workaround to make it work at all.

 

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