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CONTROL VISIBILITY OF WALL SWEEPS IN PLAN VIEWS!!

CONTROL VISIBILITY OF WALL SWEEPS IN PLAN VIEWS!!

This is another huge pain and I can't believe it hasn't been fixed yet after all these years. Wall types can host wall sweeps. Such as base, chair and ceiling moldings / cornices. Great for internal perspectives & sections, but horrible for when trying to hide in plan views. Now there seems to be a checkbox inside the Visibility graphics to turn off wall sweeps as an override. Problem is, it doesn't work!

 

The only way to sort of get some control on the visibility of the sweeps, is to play around with the View Range. In some cases, it works, but in others, objects get hidden that you need to be shown.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

add subcategories as an option to filter by (ie. walls / wall sweeps)

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dwane
Participant

The Wall Sweeps work fine, if they aren't in the Wall Types-->Sweep, but individually generated using the Wall Sweep Tool.

Using the Wall Sweep Tool, all you need to do is assign the Wall Sweep to a Subcategory of your choice (Go into its Type Properties & Assign it there). This subcategory then pops up in your View Visibility etc.

 

Problem still exists though in Wall Types-->Sweeps, no "Subcategory" button therCapture.PNG

Anonymous
Not applicable

So the whole purpose of creating the sweep or reveal in the Wall Structure editor is so you don't have to place them individually. 

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a Subcategory option in the editor for built in wall sweeps. Currently these sweeps just inherit the Wall Category Object Styles which is lacking in visibility control. 

 

I think this one is worthwhile. The option could be there, right beside Material in the editor for sweeps. 

dwane
Participant

Agree 100%

It's got my vote

ysautodesklover
Collaborator

Someone had previously posted this idea but it was not recognised as the important matter so I would like to re-post on Revit ideas.

 

The representation of system families which have both structual and architectual disciplines come to the issue, especially when we want to turn off specific wall, strucutal wall or Architectural wall.

 

I am talking about view setting without using worksets.

 

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I thought of turning off by subcategories for wall sweeps and it will work ok.

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But I expected that if I don't set a subcategory and set filtering for a specific structual wall, wall sweeps will be off by the filter as well.

Then it didn't work.... ok of course...

 

Then there is subcategory " slub edge" in the filter setting for floor.

So now I can turn of  slub edges by a new filter .... but why not for wall sweep?

 

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What is different between them?

-Slub Edge is defalt subcategory and Wall Sweeps are supposed to be added by users.

-Slub edges can not be set their subcategories.

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I understand the difference .... but after wall sweeps are all allocated then I cannot use filtering to turn off the specific walls and wall sweep belonged to them by filters.

I had to set subcategories for wall sweeps to turn off by following walls.I should had done the work in the first place, didn't I?

 

I just wish I could use the filter function like slub edges not by subcategories.

And it seems not difficult to add the funtion for wall sweep.

 

So I wish Autodesk will take this idea.

 

Thanks,

 

Yuki Sugita

 

Kevin.Bell
Advisor

Agreed - this is unnecessarily complex...

ysautodesklover
Collaborator

@Anonymous Thank you for your comment.I do know sorting out by subcategories in V/G.If you are talking about subcategories to sort in filers then that is what I am talking about. Wall's subcatetgory doesn't appear in the filter setting only category does.

 

BarryBinns
Enthusiast

I agree with the previous - this is a burdensome way to control and create sweeps. Putting the sweeps in the wall type/sweep is a huge time saver - unless you need to turn them off in a specific view - then you must create in-place sweeps. This is nuts.

With all of the different VG controls in Revit this one would seem like a no brainer.

Autodesk - can you add this?

dswegheimer
Explorer

I agree! Autodesk, please add this functionality.

jseltzer
Enthusiast

just like everyone else, this seems like common sense. but like most things in revit, they must not be designed by people who are doing the drawings

 

at least allow filters to turn them off or something

Nurlan-A.
Advisor

Problem: We can not use filters for the Wall Sweeps. There is no "Wall Sweeps" category in the category list for filters.

Idea: Allow users to use filters for the Wall Sweeps category.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

To control wall assigned sweeps, I found you select the wall sweep, you can go into Edit Types, then assign a sub-category (wall sweep)

cbgallatin
Explorer

Yes, this has been a problem for may years. Autodesk, please provide visibility control for wall sweeps that are part of the wall assembly. 

cbgallatin
Explorer

Yes, this has been a problem for many years. Autodesk, please provide visibility control for wall sweeps that are part of the wall assembly. 

Anonymous
Not applicable

I use a combination of walls, so instead of wall "layers" i draw it literally like i would build it. in different parts completely. ie:  the first wall drawn is the structure of the wall (the wall framing or core wall) then, later i draw the finish walls, (and i created a parameter called "wall function") then to all the "Finish walls" (which i pre-made a whole mess of in a wall library and in these walls i do use layers and embedded sweeps) i assign "finish" to the wall function parameter. then i can control the visibility of the finish walls independently of the structural walls or wall framing. 

there are steps involved to make sure the finish walls move with the "core wall" but overall i like the viability control it gives me in all views. (the visibility control is through the use of filters) it takes a while to figure out how to impliment this strategy but after a while and lots of templet set up plan views, elevations, and sections all come together pretty nicely... not perfect but neither is anything. 

EmptySaturnV
Advocate

I also can't believe that it has been years and this functionality still hasn't been built into the program. I agree 100%!

Nurlan-A.
Advisor

Must-implement idea!

Bump!

lostagain
Advocate

Programmers: Just allow for setting subcategory when defining the sweep in the wall assembly! Discovering, troubleshooting and working around inconsistencies such as this are frustrating.

JamesMcKinnon
Contributor

I was just struggling with this very issue this morning!

I would very much support adding wall sub-categories to the filter options.

Anonymous
Not applicable

Autodesk please add this in an update or in the next version of Revit. Please!

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