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Better Functionality for Legends!!

Better Functionality for Legends!!

1.  Ability to Tag Legend Components

2.  Ability to rotate Legend Components

3.  Option for "Floor Plan View" for Floors, Ceilings, etc.

4. Ability to Override Graphics, apply Filters, etc to Legend Components

 

Work arounds for these issues are too many, and leave too much room for error.  A legend should be representative of the items in your model.  It should have as much functionality as your floor plans do because it is meant to be a visual guide of the items in said floor plan.  MUST HAVE FULL FUNCTIONALITY!

141 Comments
Damien_Turner
Explorer

Legend Components - Improvements to allow automated legends

 

Step 1 Give the ability to schedule legend components. 

 

Step 2 Give the ability to rotate legend components, not all families were made the same way and libraries are too big to rebuild

 

Step 3 Allow 3D views of legend components and the ability to set/lock a rotation

 

Now the user can create a schedule with Legend Component (As the view they need for a legend), family, type and description. Boom automated legends that won't be missing items.

dennis_collin
Advocate

So no legend improvements in 2024, can we hope for an improvement in a 2024 point release?

 

So many things Legends should be able to do, but dont

 

This is one of the top voted wishes, any indication where/when on the road map some (any!) improvements will be made?

I pray the Autodesk Gods implement Legend improvements in the next 10 years

🙏🧙‍🪄🧙🙏

 

It's not on the current roadmap, so it seems this has still fallen on deaf ears

https://trello.com/b/ldRXK9Gw/revit-public-roadmap

dennis_collin
Advocate

Maybe there's a roadmap for the Revit New/Planned/Implemented Features roadmap! 😛

 

Maybe we should type louder? 😄

Will pray as well if it helps!

 

 

 

 

esatis
Advocate

I asked about legends in this years AMA Revit, still seems there are no intentions to change anything in foreseeable feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLrrGEtBKEM
@dennis_collin here is new roadmap- we can vote on ideas. https://portal.productboard.com/aec-bid/7-architecture-revit-public-roadmap/tabs/20-in-progress

I also got the same answer in a call with Harlam Brumm. He did not seem to understand why we needed this so badly and said it was not planned anywhere unless there were somehow many more votes on the Ideas platform.

 

It was disappointing, it was like there was no problem at all needing to be solved with Legends.

 

There's no point of voting on roadmap ideas if the ideas we care about are not present on the roadmap ideas 🥲

KClark
Explorer

I don't understand why we STILL cannot tag or dimension legend components. This is a huge hassle for wall, roof, ceiling and floor-type schedules. The information is in the model and yet it can't be extracted to create a proper assemblies sheet (not Revit assemblies, just architectural assemblies). The work arounds are silly for what should be  included in Revit in the first place.

Wait until you hear of the revolutionary concepts of drawing everything by hand! It's called Autocad 😖

Kev_D
Collaborator

One thing I try to promote when firms talk about implementing a BIM process on a project is this.....

Learn how to use Revit first because output is only as good as input.

How can we inform our teams to improve on the basics, when Autodesk seem to ignore the customers requirements on improving the basics. If we don't have coordination between information on different views within a single model, how can we improve the BIM process on a project overall. 

Autodesk, please get back to basics. 

nicola_meirose
Explorer

This is such a huge problem that companies have gone through absurd lengths to work around it. Using pre-historic phases, entire different models, and other absurd solutions - all this could be gone if Autodesk implemented these simple, basic tools into Legend views. It's honestly astounding Legends were ever released without - what is even the point?

 

Please, add this to the roadmap asap. We are begging you!!

adamBALXP
Observer

It has been 10+ years, I see the post at the link below marked as solved, but I beg to differ. Please fulfill this request.  It seems small, but is a huge time suck deal with this on every single project. Yes there are workarounds, but does it really have to be this way?  

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/tags-for-legend-components/td-p/3296519

 

Thanks, 

zefreestijl
Advocate

Just upgrade to 2024 recently, today I was trying the doors & windows legend function,

I started up from the Architectural template of Autodesk, seems they put a legend sample in it, good,

I opened up the views and this is how the template looks like?

 

legend1.png

 

really?

 

two plain textnotes? not even a generative annotation family??

and didn't even put the door components related to those words?

 

why bother putting "Door Legend" in the template then???

dennis_collin
Advocate

It has been like this ever since I can remember. And not just for architecture it is equally poor for structures and MEP.

It is certainly a case of 'COULD DO BETTER', more effort required etc. Back to basics! Yes indeed, less fuss about icon appearance style and more substance in product please.

 

Even the new sample models (mentioned as a new feature) just have line work for their legend components.

All disciplines would benefit from a 'decent' legend functionality!

 

I.e. more intelligent, flexible, taggable legend components

Respect filters, generate symbols in more views

Make legend components more snappable for dimensions

a filterable legend drop down list

respect phase filters for construction sequence projects. (this is not meant to be an exhaustive list)

Some kind a of legend generation wizard maybe?? 😛  Lets aim high(er)! 🙂

 

 

Kev_D
Collaborator

@zefreestijl 🤣 I just looked at this. Wow, whoever got this idea up the ladder at Autodesk deserves a promotion. This is terrible! But the new plus signs for view expansion look fantastic!!🙄

Indeed Revit Legends are likely one of Revit's most shameful and underdeveloped aspects.

Enough to make any Product Owner or Revit user cringe at the decade long promise of parametric tools from BIM and Autodesk.

Iev60047
Advocate

I know I have voted for this in the past, but just a periodic bump that legends in Revit do indeed need attention and fixing.

Lars_Jeppesen
Enthusiast

Ditto.

 

Bumpity bump!

Revit Product Owner working on refreshing the user interface of Revit and not fixing Legends

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dennis_collin
Advocate

+1. Yes agreed are we there yet? Its about time legends become Legendary. 

 

 

 

 

ViviNyehuusAndersen
Collaborator

When do Autodesk add system families to Legends components? Our templates are containing Lines styles matching piping systems, just to create symbolic for these.  

ViviNyehuusAndersen_1-1711519118153.png

 

Sorry if I've posted this before but Autodesk isn't doing enough

 

 

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