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Add "Ceiling: Edge" functionality

Add "Ceiling: Edge" functionality

Please add the functionality to create Ceiling Edges. Other categories already have additional functionalities like walls (sweeps, reveal), floors (edges) and roofs (gutter, soffit). It will be very useful to model fall ceilings, cornice mouldings, floors which need to have an insulated ceiling from below with extensions at the wall and wrapping of the beams...

21 Comments
Anonymous
Not applicable

When we design ceilings in the Revit, we do not have an option or a command that allows us to create a vertical finishes on the ceiling as pictured below.

I know we can execute this process through fascias or profiles of generic models, but I believe it would be more intuitive ir the option of drawing "ceiling" had this option, as we have the option of sweep and reveal in the command "wall"

 

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pieter1
Advisor

We need this in every project. A sweep option for ceilings would we a great solution. Ideally these would schedule as well. 

Anonymous
Not applicable

Wouldn't it be possible to insert a cornice in the ceilings? something similar to the slab edge but to put profiles in the borders of the ceilings!

 

Thanks a lot!

 

samuelsanf
Advisor

Wall Function can be assigned to "Soffit", so I think the correct way to model this is using walls (some times a cleanup is needed); but that isn't allways intuitive. So, maybe wall (as soffit) tool must visibe on the ceiling dropdown arrow beside the tool botton on the ribbon.

 

 

timonwanga
Contributor

The ability to add profile based ceiling edge like in floors would be great

akesh
Enthusiast

It would be great to expand the Ceiling Tool to have a Ceiling Edge function, similar to that of Floors > Slab Edges.

 

The reason for this idea is to simplify adding Bulkheads and any Ceiling Edge treatments that may result, for example Cornices, Vertical Bulkheads, Profiled Bulkheads.

 

This method should work in the same principle as Slab Edges do.  You can create a profile, load into the project and host that profile to the edge of a Ceiling using this Ceiling Edge function.  Each Ceiling Edge Type created shall include the material option to assign a specific material to this Ceiling Edge Type.  Should the same material as the ceiling be assigned, the Ceiling and the Ceiling Edge automatically merge to read as one (same as a Slab Edge).

 

Currently I know of other methods which are being applied by other Revit users, such and using the wall tool to draw these bulkheads, or the Model In-Place method.  These may do the job, however tend to have issues and are quite "messy" options.  At our office I have set up an alternate method of creating vertical bulkheads which works well however I feel Revit should introduce this Ceiling Edge tool to better handle this process.

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steiner
Advocate

Also it would be usefull to add (as it the case for slabs) the upper and lower level to the ceiling.

Greetings Jakob

akesh
Enthusiast

Hi @steiner 

Exactly.

The Horizontal/Vertical Profile Flip option including the Horizontal/Vertical Profile Offsets must be included in this feature as well, same as per the Slab Edge.

steiner
Advocate

Hi @akesh 

To be complete I would add add as well lower and upper justification (as beams can do). Because we use slabs as well to design floors a floor category would be nice (and would allow to to handle "Floor" objects more easily). Last but not least the roofs tool should be consired as well. These 4 tools work more or less in the same way but offer different features.

Greetings Jakob

leahmbell
Advocate

@akesh Or how about allowing the fascia tool to be used on walls instead of just roofs. That way you can make whatever profile you would like to close the soffit. It would definitely help out with having to use walls to close soffits.

Mark_Engwirda
Collaborator

You are so right about this idea and its the only viable way of doing cornices etc.
I still can't believe that people are trying to sell the idea of using wall sweeps as a solution for a cornice cause that just turns out to be a full-on mess!

fg
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

The Fascia tool can be added to model lines so one can work around some of this need that way.  I would recommend using a dedicated Linetype for these paths.  That being said, you now end up with ceiling edging/trim that is categorized as "roofing" - So I agree with everyone else that there really should be a ceiling version of this!

floraJEGHZ
Explorer

Yes, please! Adding edges to ceilings would be a very helpful feature. Walls are too messy.

KentBurns
Advocate

There's a lot of similar suggestions, so I'm just going through to vote for them all as it would save a lot of life to be implemented.

 

Essential for cornicing and floating ceilings. At the moment, we're dealing with teams doing bits of walls or in-place models 

KentBurns
Advocate

There's a lot of similar suggestions, so I'm just going through to vote for them all as it would save a lot of life.

 

Essential for cornicing and floating ceilings. At the moment, we're dealing with teams doing bits of walls or in-place models 

boristLYRLR
Explorer

If the Ceiling Edge idea ever gets implemented (as it should!), please make the edge taggable.

CEdwardsUN5MX
Advocate

Only 6 years since this was posted...another 10 years, and Autodesk might even look at the idea.

 

[I'd go /s but sadly this is not sarcasm but how fast Autodesk deliver 'upgrades']

Ar_vxv
Enthusiast

Because of this silly omission. I still use floor to create the ceiling. Lots and lots of other silly things we have to deal with Revit. Gurus and software developers call it "How Revit Works" or "Features"...lol

ks2_wmb
Advocate

Eight... years...

KentBurns
Advocate

sometimes I feel like checking in with my old ideas forum posts are like catching up with old friends...

 

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