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Revit MEP Elec : Réservation et encastrement béton

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Revit MEP Elec : Réservation et encastrement béton

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‎07-30-2018 04:25 PM

Bonjour à tous,

 

Je débute le premier projet BIM de mon entreprise,lot électricité. J’ai terminé une formation sur l’utilisation de Revit en application MEP électricité.

 

Le formateur n'avait pas toutes les réponses sur certains sujets et j’aimerais savoir comment concrètement vous faites pour traiter ces sujets (méthode sous Revit, ou installer un plugin pour Revit, ou bien il faut utiliser autre choses que Revit). Je vais décomposer mes questions sur  des posts différents pour séparer les sujets.

 

Comment faites vous pour gérer les Réservations et encastrement dans le béton ?

 

En tant que lot électrique il faut pouvoir communiquer au gros œuvre la localisation et  le type de réservation à faire dans le béton.

Si une canalisation doit être dans le béton il faut pouvoir le traiter de manière particulière. Dès qu’une canalisation traverse un mur Revit détecte un clash, alors qu’on devrait pouvoir définir que c’est un passage dans le béton, et ensuite pouvoir se faire une nomenclature des réservations béton (ou quelque chose d’équivalent).

Pareillement pour les canalisation type fourreau ou gaine noyée dans le béton, ils cheminent dans les murs (à l’intérieur) et je ne sais pas comment gérer ça proprement dans Revit.

 

Bref quand vous êtes confronté à ce problème, quelle est la meilleure méthode à adopter (Revit ou plugin Revit ou autre ) ?

 

Un grand merci à vous.

Cordialement

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‎07-30-2018 07:06 PM

Bonjour,

 

Pour les réservations, il y a troisméthodes :

 

Revit Natif

Revit + Dynamo

Revit + Plugin

 

Revit Natif :

Il vous faut créer vos propres famille de réservation, le positionnement de chaque réservation est manuel

Avantage : Solution 100% gratuite

Inconvénient : Demande un positionnement manuel des réservations, une maitrise en création de famille est nécessaire.

 

Revit + Dynamo:

Il vous faut créer vos propres famille de réservation, le positionnement de chaque réservation est automatisé via une routine dynamo

Avantage : Solution 100% gratuite

Inconvénient : Demande des notions de Dynamo,une maitrise en création de famille est nécessaire

 

Revit + Plug-in (Magicad, Piro...) :

Famille de réservation déjà fournis et positionnement automatique des réservations (Voir vidéo ci joint pour démo)

Avantage : Famille déjà présente et positionnement automatique

Inconvénient : Solution souvent payante

 

Concernant le processus nous corps d'état MEP ne faisons seulement qu’une demande de réservation a savoir positionner une famille de réservation, suite le lot structure réalise un copier contrôler de nos famille de réservation dans sa maquette et c'est lui qui valide ou non la réservation en réalisant physiquement une ouverture dans son mur porteur.



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‎08-01-2018 06:52 PM

Merci beaucoup pour la réponse et pour la vidéo. Je comprends bien la puissance offerte par les plugins en effet.

Avez-vous des ressources sur la solution "Famille Revit" et "Famille Revit + Dynamo" ? J'appréhende bien le concept et la création de famille, malgré tout ici je ne me représente pas clairement la solution. Il s'agirait de créer une famille "Réservation" composée de sorte de cylindres ? Qui vendrait "percer" le mur ? Et dynamo servirait à aligner ce cylindre avec la canalisation et le mur (Je ne connais par contre pas bien Dynamo, pourtant cela a l'air très pratique) ?

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‎08-02-2018 02:51 PM

Bonjour, oui en effet c'est Soit vous vous développez une famille réservation et avec revit vous les positionnez seul, soit vous utilise Dynamo pour un positionnement automatique. Concernant la création de famille ou dynamo les mieux et de ce former la dessus car c'est deux univers assez vaste.



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‎08-02-2018 04:40 PM
Solution acceptée

Voici un exemple en vidéo

 

 

 



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‎08-12-2018 06:17 PM

Merci à vous !

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We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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