Collaboration 4 Revit Licenses

[Anonymous]

Hello,

I am looking for some help with how licenses work for C4R.  My company has used C4R a few times now, but we are usually getting invites from architects.  We are looking to take the lead on projects and will need to provide access to C4R instead of getting access from the architects.  My question is, how exactly do the licenses work.  From my end, it seems as though the architects have purchased so many licenses and that allows them to send out invitations to work on a project.  Say we have 10 employees at my company that need access to a project, the architect just send out emails to give us access.  Do the architects have to own a license for each invite they send out, or does one license allow so many invites.  We are usually just editors for the project so i'm not sure if you get so many editors per license or what.  We have yet to be the lead and don't want to purchase more licenses than we need.  So, do we need to purchase a C4R license for every person involved in a project(in house or otherwise), or can 1 license serve more than one person in any way? 

Thank you

[abaumgartner]

We have been using a trial of the product for the last 50 days and plan to purchase 5 licenses for our company.  We have 5 project managers that will set up projects.  Each manager will invite as many participants the project requires.  So far, we have not run into any limits.  Autodesk says everyone accessing a cloud file needs to have C4R license.  However, there does not seem to be a limit to the number of people that could be invited to a single or multiple projects set up under a single license.  But, it takes a bit of work to manage C4R project teams which is why we are going with multiple licenses.    

You should check out the trial version for 60 days. 

[KyleB_Autodesk]

This diagram should help:

[Anonymous]

Does it mean I just need to apply one C4R license to a TEAM hub project, and all others being invited as Editors can collaborate on the model?

[gregamhale]

I'll second the question as the picture does not really answer it.  

From my experience, it seems that only one person needs to host the BIM 360 Team and Collaboration 4 Revit.  The invitees do not need to purchase a license.  I'm also just looking for verification on this as it's not at all clear.  

[LisaDrago]

Hello @gregamhale and @Anonymous - 

The licensing for C4R has been a little fuzzy. It seems as thought you can purchase 1 license and use it for as many users as you want.

But Autodesk has found this error and is correcting it.

For your team to work with C4R - each user will need their own license of C4R. So if your team has 5 people - you need 5 licences. 

Each user can access as many projects as is available to them.

Does this help?

LD

[gregamhale]

That is the answer I was looking for.  I just received clarification on this through an email blast from Autodesk stating that they are closing this loophole.  It'll be interesting to see how that's handled and how many people they kick off projects because the licensing model has been unclear.  Thanks for the reply.

[KyleB_Autodesk]

LD is correct, you need a C4R subscription for each team member who is cloud worksharing in Revit.

As @Anonymous mentions we are indeed restarting our enforcement of C4R subscription entitlement next Thursday the 19th. At that point you cannot browse or open cloud workshared models without a valid C4R subscription entitlement associated with your Autodesk ID.

This was not a loophole that was somehow missed in testing, but a purposeful decision in reaction to a defect in our Autodesk entitlement mechanism, which was causing users with valid entitlements to lose C4R access. We shut off entitlement enforcement until that defect was fixed. Not we are doing our best to communicate with those who are operating without subscription, so they can avoid disruption.

-Kyle