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wrapping separated wall

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sm.sadat89
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wrapping separated wall

how wrapping when separate wall to structure and finish wall?Untitled.png

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: sm.sadat89

In the Family; check  "Wall Closure" for the Center Ref. Plane. 

In the Project; check "Wrap" next to Wall Layer you want to wrap and move that layer out of the "Core".  Then set "Wrapping at Insert" condition. 

 

Wrap.png

 

...or, approach 2: 

 

In the Family; check "Wall Closure" for the Center Ref. Plane.

In the Project: check "Wrap" next to Wall Layer you want to wrap and move that layer out of the "Core". 

Under the Type Properties for the Door in the Project: Change "Wall Closure" Door Properties in Project from "By Host" to another value (i.e. "Exterior").

 

wrap 2.png

 

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sm.sadat89
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

thanks barthbradley

but structure wall not wrapped with finish layer...how finish layer  wrapping structure  wall too?

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: sm.sadat89

If you model the structural and the finishes as separate walls then you need to create a separate, wider opening for the structure to match the rough opening size. Why not keep them as a single compound wall?
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: sm.sadat89


@sm.sadat89 wrote:

thanks barthbradley

but structure wall not wrapped with finish layer...how finish layer  wrapping structure  wall too?


 

Yes, that how wrapping works.  Structural doesn't wrap.  

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sm.sadat89
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

hi...because managing of this method is easier. and the number of wall
decrease.
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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: sm.sadat89

You can also look at the Edit Assembly dialogue - the wrapping depends on how the core layers are organised.

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: sm.sadat89


@sm.sadat89 wrote:
hi...because managing of this method is easier. and the number of wall
decrease.

 

It is debatable.  Easier yet you are having a hard time making them wrap.  The number of wall decrease yet in the example you have 3 walls instead 1.

 

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sm.sadat89
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

for example we have wc between bedroom and living room.
we should have 3 wall for 1wc
1 wc living room wall
2wc bedroom wall
3wc exterior space
but this metod
1structure wall
2 wc finishing wall
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: sm.sadat89

You meant fewer wall types, nit walls, and it is true. So it is between fewer types but more elements versus more types but fewer elements. Pick yours poison.

Anyways, as already said, you need a bigger void to cut the structure wall separately from the door or window.
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: sm.sadat89


@sm.sadat89 wrote:

thanks barthbradley

but structure wall not wrapped with finish layer...how finish layer  wrapping structure  wall too?


 

Funny, when I first read this reply from you, I thought wanted the Structure to wrap as well -- which is a strange concept.  I see now that you were talking about making the wrap go deeper.  You cannot do this when you model your wall layers individually, but you can do this if you make compound-layered walls.  Use my second approach above with compound layered walls and you can change the depth of the wrap by changing the location of the "Wall Closure" Ref. Plane(s) in the Door and Window Families.  And, you can set it up so you can control the wrap depth through Instance Parameters, so each instance of the Door or Window Family placed in the Project can have it's own unique wrapping condition.   If you really, really need the walls layers separate from each other, then create Parts from the compound-layered walls.   

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: sm.sadat89

I searched a lot for a solution to this problem and I can safely tell you that there is no way to wrap separate walls around inserts , the wrap works only with wall layers not independent walls,  The solution I came up with was to make a wall based family that cuts around the opening and create the desired cladding wrap as a sweep , I think Revit developers should find a solution for this as many people  are modeling wall layers separately especially in large projects as you can't afford to have a wall type for every single type of wall also when you have structure model including RC walls on a separate links , not mentioning that its easier to have separate walls for quantification and 4D models   

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