Working with owner provided models for renovation projects plus other questions?

[Anonymous]

1.   We do a lot of renovation projects. The owner gives us a model and there seems to be alot of issues with the owners templates etc. Clean up etc.

• Whats the best practices for for working with models provided by the owner.

2.   When working on a renovation project and theirs no model, sometimes cad files but the interior spaces are highly detailed and or themed, what is the best practices for this process.

3.  When working with owner provided templates some seem to have a lot of issues or do not work correctly, what steps should be taken to diagnose the issues and or fix the issues?

Any suggestions????

[RobDraw]

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@Anonymous wrote:

3.  When working with owner provided templates some seem to have a lot of issues or do not work correctly, what steps should be taken to diagnose the issues and or fix the issues?

Any suggestions????

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In an ideal world, you would let their BIM person know the issues and they would fix them. 

[hmunsell]

Working with Client Provided Models:
We regularly get client/owner supplied models. We have been lucky that most of them have been decent enough. Normally when we get new models in, the Project BIM Lead will let me know where they are at and I will Vet them. I will run them thru the Standard Checker provided in the BIM Interoperability Tools extensions and see what it says. From there I may purge unused, and check Compress Central Model when doing a save.

Recently have received some models that were less than ideal to work with. On this project All we needed was the modeled content for existing conditions. I ran them thru the eTransmit for Revit tool. In eTransmit for Revit, All the way at the bottom, is a "Remove all Sheets Except" option. I select that and uncheck all the options in the check box(s). eTransmit removes all the View/Sheet/etc. content and purged leaving only the modeled content.

Working with CAD provided backgrounds:
We have many clients that still require CAD deliverables. We receive CAD files and choose to do the project in Revit (cause its better 😊). If the CAD files are from a sub-consultant, we can dictate to some extent how they work. If the files are from the client, we must deal with what they give us. we also frequently have sub-consultants that only uses CAD on our Revit projects (typically Interiors or Elec for some reason). In these cases, we link in the CAD files and manage the layers the best we can thru the VG Overrides > Imported categories. most things can be controlled thru View Templates.

Working with Owner provided templates:
When a new standard comes in, I take it and look thru their BIM Standards, if provided, and any accompanying templates. Recently we have had several of our clients make the move from CAD to BIM. Several have provided us with their templates. Some are great, well thought out with a good structure to them. unless their BIM Standard says I can’t, I will transfer our VT’s and Worksets into their template.

Others look ok until you get into them. In that case we have a decision to make. Talk to the client about the issues with their template or adapt our internal template to match their BIM Standard.

[RDAOU]

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@Anonymous wrote:

1.   We do a lot of renovation projects. The owner gives us a model and there seems to be alot of issues with the owners templates etc. Clean up etc.

• Whats the best practices for for working with models provided by the owner. This is not exclusive to renovation projects. At one point or the other one always receives a model produced by other stakeholders, Architect, Engineer, ID...etc. either directly or through the Client/Owner and vise versa. The good thing here is that you have already identified that what you have received is problematic. The question is, what was specified under your scope of work. 
  • When the scope is not clearly defined, some Clients  anticipate that you will do the review, report it and fix/improve/amend as necessary, other expect you to carry out the review as part of their review on deliverables received form other stakeholders.
  • On the other hand, when the scope and your deliverables are clearly defined you have no issue in know what to do and who will be doing it.
  • In both cases, the best practice is to have periodic workshops and identify any problems and discuss the means and the most suitable course of action.

2.   When working on a renovation project and theirs no model, sometimes cad files but the interior spaces are highly detailed and or themed, what is the best practices for this process. 

Again, the LOD is or must be defined in the scope, if it isn't on the current project, make sure it is on the future one before you sign. It is not a matter of how detailed and themed the model you received is, what matters is what you have been contracted to deliver. This is very common when contractors subcontract packages of the works to others. Main contract calls for LOD 500 but that doesn't imply tht subcontract agreements are or should be back to back. 

3.  When working with owner provided templates some seem to have a lot of issues or do not work correctly, what steps should be taken to diagnose the issues and or fix the issues? Refer to the reply to question 1 - meet and coordinate with your counterpart who is sitting at the Client's question. Who fixes the issue is less important than the fact tht you should raise those issues. Many firms usually fix those issues (gold plating) orther desput it and claim for delays or extra costs.

Any suggestions????

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