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Why door/window family doesn't fully cut on the curtain wall?

bh-khanh
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Why door/window family doesn't fully cut on the curtain wall?

bh-khanh
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Hello  experts!

I am trying to place a door/window family on the curtain wall. But it doesn't fully cut, it is haft cut only. I don't know the reason why?

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I am an amateur in Revit, so I would like attached the my testing here. Please help me by directly  do on the attached.

 

Thank you very much!

 

BH Khanh

 

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azad.Nanva
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this is the solution without join

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Afonso__Silva
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Wrong Azad.

 

Thats exactly the point. 

 

I DONT want to join the panels, otherwise i would simply use a larger panel to accomodate the window/door in a single panel.

 

I wanted exactly to cut multiple SEPARATED panels at the same time,  using just one window/door. And to do that the only way i found (after a exhasuting research in autodesk forum and the rest of the internet) was this simple process that i explained before, to 'trick' revit to assume the cut in multiple panels is possible - By joining the panels, the void in the dorr/window can cut those multiple panels (because revit assume that is just one big panel, but it is not - its 2 panels that are 'joined'). And then, when you Unjoin those panels again, revit separate them again and remains the cut geometry, introducing the curtain wall grids that were deleted before (when you joined the panels).

 

This a very unique theme that so far there was no way to do it. I already talked to many architects coleagues that could not find a way to do this.

 

Today i needed to do this, because im working with insualted panels, and i need to deliver shop drawings and Quantity TO for the factory with the precise number of panels, and precise geometry of all the cuts in each panel.

 

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Afonso__Silva
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Thank you Azad .

 

But your previous answer was very vague, simply saying that was the 'solution wihtou join'... But actually didnt explain the major part of this question, that is actually the need to keep the two separated panels to count them precisely, and remain the curtain grids so that can be visible in wall views, etc.

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azad.Nanva
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I write at the first the join and unjoin but delete it, I thought you need another solution not this one so i cost time for answer and solution , but nevermind, it is important the problem solved.

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bh-khanh
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Dear @Afonso__Silva 
Thank you very much for your time on it
i appreciate it very much, it's definitely the correct solution. However, it's not reasonable in actual project. I hope that Revit can record it as 1 point need to be updated infuture
for example, my project like this, I have do like that for every wall it wastes too much time.

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mbenz7UX36
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Similar issue - we have a building with 700+ panels (on curtain walls) that we manually go through elevation by elevation and use the wall>modify profile tool to visually get windows to cut both panels. This also affects how schedules pull the panel information on dimensions. 

 

Curious if it'll work if I host a window in say, the left panel, and then host a similar family in the right panel (grid split between the two) but the right panel version does not get scheduled (due to a parameter I put in it) AND it is missing all the frame, jamb, etc etc ~ only hosting the cut in the wall. I think this will work for our case. Curious further if it'll work without the need of a secondary family if I host the right family in the left. Will update with results.

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mbenz7UX36
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Update - we were able to host normal windows just fine in multiple panels when placing on the first try without creating a new family with multiple voids etc. It becomes issues when using the move tool - but you can just re-host the family in the wall in that place and they are cutting again fine. Is this working for anyone else?

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