What are the ways of creating this type of detail/model?

[dogans01]

Hey guys, I just started learning Revit (10+ years of AutoCAD and SketchUp). So as a practice I am trying to create some basic details such as the image attached. My question is am I doing it in a right way? And yes I am aware that there may be several right ways of doing such detail work. Any advise would be helpful.

https://imgur.com/Kt17LEg

I created some basic walls and draw all the elements with them (as seen on project browser). It seems workable for me at the moment. But then I realised that lets say if I am going to draft a bathroom, and if in this bathroom I want to apply tiles only on shower wall is that means that I can do it with creating a new wall type called ie "Tile 900x1200x8mm" and draw this wall next to my base wall? Or the best way is to simply edit wall structures and create wall types in that way?

Sorry if sounds a little messy.

[SteveKStafford · Accepted solution]

There are two ways to approach details in Revit: live model based views and 2D drafted views. Your example is a model based approached where it is necessary to create 3D model elements and a view that "looks" at them closely enough to explain what is necessary to carry out your design. The other way is to create a generic representation of that location in the model that can then reference a drafting view which is a drafted view of that part of the design that bears no connection to the actual model of the building except for your references in the documentation to look at that detail wherever it applies.

Both techniques are possible and suitable...and Revit provides for both approaches intentionally. The latter can help produce documentation quickly without requiring extensive accurate modelling because the model itself can be more generic in a majority of documentation, referring to typical detailed conditions. The closer you are to construction the more logical it may be to model very closely to what will be built instead of referring to 2D details or rather allowing your model to be able to produce specific detail conditions throughout the building.

I think of it as "not knowing what I don't know until I explore something more closely". It is only in the doing of the work that you become acquainted with the subtle issues at hand. Working in a computer to craft a building detail is distinctly different from actually holding the materials in your hand, cutting, welding, drilling, lifting into place and so on... So the further from the actual fabrication or construction of things I get the more inclined I am to model it as closely as I can, to enhance my own understanding of the implications of the design.

The risk or burden of "live modeling to detailing" is that a change to the model requires review and editing of the model everywhere it applies to be changed accordingly. So the advantage of a 2D drafting detail that is merely referenced is that the model need not be changed as much as the detail itself. Everywhere that detail is referenced, the detail is to explain what is required even if the model itself has less detail or even different. If you and your team are diligent about modelling very closely to what will be built then "live detail views" may be quite appropriate and successful. Ultimately it is up to you and your team to determine what is both efficient and necessary to ensure that the design you've promised your client will be built on time and and within the budget.

[handjonathan]

Hi @dogans01 

Thanks a lot for posting your question to the forums!   Has the solution suggested by @SteveKStafford  helped with your issue?
 
We look forward to hearing back from you with more information so we can help you as a community! 

[dogans01]

Thank you @SteveKStafford for your explanations. I really appreciate the insight into the two approaches. It makes sense that the model-based approach would provide a more accurate representation for construction, especially when I am dealing with interior design solutions.

[ToanDN]

Parts is a great tool to bring your model to the next level of detail while keeping the smaller scale drawings clean.