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Wall wrapping at abutment (wall thickening)

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Anonymous
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Wall wrapping at abutment (wall thickening)

I am trying to join a 100mm blockwork wall with a dry lined plasterboard finish to a thicker wall (440mm blockwork) of the exact same build and get the wall dry lined finish to wrap correctly (at 'x') to show the dry lining wrapping around the wall. All looks fine before I join the walls together but when I do wrapping is missed on the return abutment to the thinner wall. I've tried everything I know but cannot get it to work. 

Anyone got any ideas?

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Ilic.Andrej
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Click on the end of a thinner wall and "disallow join". Click on the end of a thicker wall and "allow join". Set wrapping at ends to "none" for the thinner wall and the thicker wall. Pick a portion of a thicker wall and delete it. Create two new wall types where one will be wrapped just for the join workaround. Fill the deleted portion of the thicker wall with new walls.

 

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Andrej Ilić

phonetical: ændreɪ ilich
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Ilic.Andrej
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

But to be honest, this is alot of hassle for nothing. Revit doesn't recognize wrapping at material take-offs anyway. I'd recommend to set wrapping at ends to "exterior" for both walls. Then select both wall ends and disallow join. After that, just use filled region (top/bottom borders: "invisible line") to mask out the unwanted wrap.

 

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Andrej Ilić

phonetical: ændreɪ ilich
MSc Arch

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: Ilic.Andrej

Thanks for post but I don't quite get the last part of the instruction"Pick a portion of a thicker wall and delete it". Can you explain in a little more detail? 

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Ilic.Andrej
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Here, the picture describes....  its a way of doing the desired join but I wouldn't recommend it cause you will be making chaos with wall types. Just consider the alternative. I think its way better than this....

 

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Andrej Ilić

phonetical: ændreɪ ilich
MSc Arch

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: Ilic.Andrej

Thanks for the info. Can region be filled with a hatch to match the blockwork? and dry lining?

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Ilic.Andrej
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Yes



Andrej Ilić

phonetical: ændreɪ ilich
MSc Arch

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Ilic.Andrej
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

If you want to use hatch, you will have to use two regions, one on top another. So, one filled region would be solid white and used for masking the wrap (this is cause "masking region" doesn't work well) and the other one for hatch. Use draw order to define hierarchy. For the hatch, use hatch from model category instead of drafting. This will allow you to align the hatch with the one displayed by wall material.

 

If you just use solid white to mask the unwanted part of wrap, i m sure that the drawing will be descriptive enough. Braking down the pattern is usually not considered like some terrible drafting mistake.



Andrej Ilić

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Ilic.Andrej
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

By the way, even though u used "disallow join" on wall ends, you can still use "Join Geometry" tool to join some materials. After that, use filled region to mask the unwanted wrap.

 

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Andrej Ilić

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FAIR59
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

On the thickest wall, make a vertical Wall-Sweep of the required dimensions and correct material, and join the sweep with both walls.

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