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Wall Tag vs. Structural Foundation Tag - Default Tag Location when "Attached"

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justine9HAZV
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Wall Tag vs. Structural Foundation Tag - Default Tag Location when "Attached"

Why is it that when tagging walls, the tag can be placed anywhere along the wall, and dragged anywhere along that wall without disturbing the leader while "attached" whereas when you tag a footing using a structural foundation tag, if "attached, it snaps to the middle of the footing. If you try to drag the structural foundation tag, it will drag the head but the leader remains attached at the center and you end up with a big slanted leader. In order to move that structural foundation tag, you have to either change it to, or place it as "free end" which results in additional clicks. I work in a structural engineering firm and any given foundation plan may have hundreds of footing tags. It gets very tedious to change them to free end individually and move them. Not often is the exact center of the wall a good spot for said tag.

 

Thanks,

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: justine9HAZV

Select all Instances in the Project and change them all to Free End simultaneously.  

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justine9HAZV
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I appreciate the work around, however, should there not be a way to specify? In my eyes, there is no reason why a wall tag can be placed anywhere along the wall, when a structural foundation tag can not?

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justine9HAZV
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

That still requires an additional step, and then to move them individually instead of just placing them where you'd like in the first place
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: justine9HAZV

It doesn't require an extra step if you use a Free End on placement. 

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justine9HAZV
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

It requires and extra click, and the drawback of leaders not being equal, since you are eyeballing them. An extra click on hundreds of tags adds up.
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: justine9HAZV

Okay, I give up.  Contact Dion Moult and ask him to add this one to his list.  

 

Why Revit is **** (thinkmoult.com)

 

 

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lucdoucet_msdl
als Antwort auf: justine9HAZV

@justine9HAZV 

Why is it that when tagging walls, the tag can be placed anywhere along the wall, and dragged anywhere along that wall without disturbing the leader while "attached" whereas when you tag a footing using a structural foundation tag, if "attached, it snaps to the middle of the footing.


I suspect it is the nature of a wall family is always linear, while footing families come in three flavours: linear, sketch and discrete units. Since the foundation tag must accomodate these three distinct types of geometry, I am guessing that it's placement functionality is dumbed down to the lowest common denominator (which I guess is a unit foundation).

 

Wall families, always having a basic linear geometry of a start and end point, seem to permit a the freer placement of the annotation tag leader line.

 

In order to move that structural foundation tag, you have to either change it to, or place it as "free end" which results in additional clicks. I work in a structural engineering firm and any given foundation plan may have hundreds of footing tags.

As an architect, I laugh at your measly hundreds of footing tags :Gesicht,_das_etwas_Leckeres_isst: and challenge you to deal with floor plans having dozens of hundreds of wall, room, floor, accessories, equipment, millwork, etc, usually in the same sheet space and scale as your foundation plans!

 

But seriously, and unless you are working on very repetitive / standardized project, manual placement and ajustment of tags will always be required. If you are dealing with repetitive / standardazed projects, you can look into creating dynamo scripts, Element tagging with Dynamo by Konrad Sobon,  or using addins such as Element Tagger to place tags and their attachment points according to what best fits your requirements. But again, exceptional cases will require additional clicks.

 

Sincerely,

 

-luc

 


 

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