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Wall Sweeps

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Wall Sweeps

Anonymous
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I created a wall sweep at the top of the wall (horizontal pre-cast conc band) in the wall type editor and it looks fine. I also created a vertical wall sweep using the wall sweep icon under wall pulldown and the brick is showing through and the sweep and wall are algined on the same plane. I dont think there is a draworder command in revit so i cant do that. I moved the sweep out 1/4" and it fixed it, but the brick and pc panel are on the same plane.

 

I was thinking after doing the horizontal sweep that the brick portion of the wall was actually being cut out but it appears to still be there and just overlayed with the sweep leave two materials occupying the same space?

 

I'm attaching a couple images one with the sweep in question selected and the other image without the sweep selected. Anyone know what to do?

 

Thanks,

Jeff

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ToanDN
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Edit the Wall Sweep type and see if Cut Wall is checked.
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Anonymous
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yes cuts wall is checked.

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cbcarch
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No images attached.

 

A sweep will not cut out or replace the wall material behind it, unless you use a Void. Sweeps are generally used to ADD additional material to a wall,

such as a wall base, or a coping on top of a wall.

 

Please post the images so we can take a look at exactly what the problems are.

 

 

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Anonymous
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I did not attach images before, oops. Here is the revit model image and a few other views. I had building this wall as question last week and I made a unique wall type with brick veneer, 2in air space, and 8in cmu wall. The problem is the the cmu is flush with the conc columns, a intermediate, and a high concrete beam so rather than making a separate wall for the cmu and the brick I made a wall that I drew through the columns and beams and then used the join command at the columns and I think i did a reveal for the columns. one reason I did it this way is so any openings cut through walls (and there are a lot of doors windows, louvers) would be easier. Now looking at my 3d revit drawing I have a brick wall at interior space of lower building which needs to be deleted.

 

With the attached images shown and my description of the walls how would any of you revit guru's handle this?

 

Thanks,

Jeff

 

REVIT-PLAN-AND-3D.jpgELEVATION.jpgELEVATIONS.jpgSECTION.jpgWALL-SECTION.jpg

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Anonymous
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I would also like to add to my last post and say the wall type I create has sweeps for the horizontal pc conc panels built into it. Looking forward for anyones input on how to best build this wall.

 

Thanks,

Jeff

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cbcarch
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You can unlock adjacent "layers" of the wall's compound materials in the wall properties>edit structure>section view>modify.

 

This way, in the project, you can "grip" and extend just a single portion of the compound wall--such as CMU or brick, etc.

 

This may help in your situation, if you want to stay with only a "single" wall type with CMU/brick, instead of individual walls.

 

Another trick is when creating callouts / enlarged views of certain details, you can use Edit Cut Profile ( 2d only ) to get the "graphics" to read correctly

in the 2d details. So--modeling it "perfectly" is your choice--you can try to model everything as it will be built. Or, you can get it close, and then show

correct relationships in the 2d details. Again, a fine balance of these methods is what usually is appropriate--based on effort put forth vs benefit in getting the drawings to read correctly.

 

The built-in sweeps for the precast are probably a good idea--keeps them "permanently" associated with the wall type, in lieu of sweeps applied to the walls inside the project.

 

You should also investigate Stacked Walls--where you create various wall Types and then "combine" them into a Stacked Wall.

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO

ToanDN
Consultant
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@Anonymous wrote:

I did not attach images before, oops. Here is the revit model image and a few other views. I had building this wall as question last week and I made a unique wall type with brick veneer, 2in air space, and 8in cmu wall. The problem is the the cmu is flush with the conc columns, a intermediate, and a high concrete beam so rather than making a separate wall for the cmu and the brick I made a wall that I drew through the columns and beams and then used the join command at the columns and I think i did a reveal for the columns. one reason I did it this way is so any openings cut through walls (and there are a lot of doors windows, louvers) would be easier. Now looking at my 3d revit drawing I have a brick wall at interior space of lower building which needs to be deleted.

 

With the attached images shown and my description of the walls how would any of you revit guru's handle this?

 

Thanks,

Jeff

 

REVIT-PLAN-AND-3D.jpg


It would help if you could post a piece of the wall you have already built as a Revit file.  It looks like it is doable in several ways.  But it better continues with what you have already started.

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Anonymous
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I was not aware that you could unlock the different components of the wall and edit them for individual walls, that I can see as being really helpful. I have not gotten as far as detailing yet, but I will be soon and I will refer back to your post. I have heard of stacked walls and even took a short lesson on it and I need to explorer it in more depth. I'm find that in revit there are a lot of functions that need to be used and it will take some time, but I'm confident that in a few months it will all start to come togeather. At one point I was a nooby at autocad and now 20 yrs later it is second nature to me.

 

Thanks for the ideas.

 

Jeff

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Anonymous
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ToanDN,

 

I could attach the revit file for you to look at but it is 6,748kb and I think there is a 3mb limit? Zipping the file using winrar does not make much difference. Is there another way to compress the file size of a revit file? Also I'm working on 2016 and I'm not sure what I would need to send in way of profiles and wall types that I have created in this prctice project.

 

Thanks,

Jeff

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ToanDN
Consultant
Consultant
You only need to copy and paste the wall to another clean project file and
send it.

-Toan
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Anonymous
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I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong but when I create a new project (revit 2016) with no line work what so ever in it it's file size is 3,216kb?

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cbcarch
Advisor
Advisor

It's your Template file ( .rte ) that loads when you create a new project.

 

Open it, maybe do a save-as, then Purge it, delete any unneeded content. Save. Then when creating a new project, specify the new template.

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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Anonymous
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Okay here it is. I copy pasted a portion of the walls, columns, and beams to give you an idea of how I went about building the walls. You may run into some areas not completed, but I think this will give you a general idea.

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