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Wall Join

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jfjacques
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Wall Join

How can I properly join the walls in the attached file ?

The insulation and the additional "half-stud" layer should rap around the inside.  The concrete should be continuous. 

The bottom vertical wall, should only be able to go into the studs, 

The top vertical wall connects with the concrete. 

 

 
 

Wall functions, wrapping, join order and wall join don't seem to cut it. 

 

 

 

 

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syman2000
als Antwort auf: jfjacques

You have to make the interior wall and concrete wall as separate and then use join geometry to join them both together. See attached for idea.

Check out my Revit youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/scourdx
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Mohamed-Nassar
als Antwort auf: jfjacques

https://revitpure.com/blog/8-tips-to-understand-revit-wall-joins 

this will help you

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jfjacques
als Antwort auf: syman2000

Thanks, I was hoping this wasn't the simplest workaround, but works pretty cleanly.

 

Thanks again. 

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jfjacques
als Antwort auf: Mohamed-Nassar

Look at the file, there's nothing in the tutorial that addresses the issue. 

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jfjacques
als Antwort auf: syman2000

 

This is a painful way of moving forward, I keep having issues. 

 

For one, the bottom wall interrupts the styrorail wall permanently flow - which a wall usually doesn't do. 

This is a painful way of moving forward, I keep having issues. 

 

For one, the bottom wall interrupts the top flow - which a wall usually doesn't do. 

 

Second, I want to disjoin the this bottom wall as a workaround but the "T" is nowhere to be found, why? 

 

Thirdly, unless I'm mistaken, these smaller walls never join properly with full walls at corners, other than by switching walls during a straight run, which is more work, is there a way of joining 2 small walls with 1 full wall? 

 

I would like to add pictures but the website is not allowing me to do so.

 

 

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syman2000
als Antwort auf: jfjacques

The edit profile condition makes it difficult to clean. I usually have issue with it because of the unpredictability. This corner conditions have short return of 3 1/4" which make it difficult for Revit to clean properly.

 

edit profile.png

 

Your alternative is to reset the wall profile and use alternative like floor as footing to mitigate the joining issue. Have the wall attached to the base of the floor.

 

floor replace footing.png

Check out my Revit youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/scourdx
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jfjacques
als Antwort auf: syman2000

So the footings are causing the issue here? 

Had no idea. 

Thanks

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jfjacques
als Antwort auf: syman2000

jfjacques_0-1603214602203.png

With this wall condition I seem to be unable to join the floor slab to the footing. 

 

I get the following error message

 

jfjacques_1-1603214662385.png

jfjacques_2-1603214703510.png

 

 

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jfjacques
als Antwort auf: syman2000

I need to hide this wall. 

jfjacques_0-1603215529265.png

but when I do the insulation shifts as below, - again I'm not deleting it, I'm just hiding it.

 

jfjacques_1-1603215870546.png

what's going on, why would hiding something change the structure of the wall? 

 

 

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syman2000
als Antwort auf: jfjacques


@jfjacques wrote:

jfjacques_0-1603214602203.png

With this wall condition I seem to be unable to join the floor slab to the footing. 

 

I get the following error message

 

jfjacques_1-1603214662385.png

jfjacques_2-1603214703510.png

 

 


Check and see if the materials are the same. You should use join geometry and not cut geometry.

Check out my Revit youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/scourdx
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syman2000
als Antwort auf: jfjacques


@jfjacques wrote:

I need to hide this wall. 

jfjacques_0-1603215529265.png

but when I do the insulation shifts as below, - again I'm not deleting it, I'm just hiding it.

 

jfjacques_1-1603215870546.png

what's going on, why would hiding something change the structure of the wall? 

 

 


Revit wall join can be very annoying. This is why I use the disallow join for the wall that run perpendicular to the insulated wall.

Check out my Revit youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/scourdx

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