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View / Depth Range not functioning as expected - 2019 Revit LT

abbyU4GQN
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View / Depth Range not functioning as expected - 2019 Revit LT

abbyU4GQN
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Hey All,

Relatively new to Revit, and so hopefully this is user error...I've played around with my view range, depth, underlay, and cannot achieve my desired view. I want to show windows that are at a higher head height than the corresponding level's doors, and also show the doors underneath. Here are screen snips of what I can show, what my inputs are, and where the doors that are not appearing should be. The closet doors show, so I'm stumped. The other doors are stock revit families, so I'd imagine they are built correctly??

Thanks!

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barthbradley
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Are talking about transom windows and wanting then to show up in Plan Views?  Basically, see both the door and window above it in the view.  Seems a bit messy, but you could use the old "Model Line Trick" to accomplish this. 

 

Go to Elevation view in the Window family and draw an invisible Model Line from the Sill to the Ref. Level and lock the tips of the Model Line to the Sill Ref. Plane and Ref. Level.  Reload window into Project.  Voila! The Window geometry above the Cut Plane of the View are now visible.  

joe_keogh
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Hi @abbyU4GQN 

As @barthbradley says, what you're asking for sounds pretty messy.. and unusual?

What if you were to show the doorbut also tag the window and note with the tag "OVER"? Or show the Window in RCP

 

Joe Keogh
Director | Design Technology + Innovation
www.viewlistic.com.au

abbyU4GQN
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good solutions - thank you.

Am I missing the whole point of the view depth range though? Shouldn't it capture anything that it cuts through/is within the boundary? It became a non-issue, since we ended up omitting the transoms, but I'm curious to see if the functionality is off, or if my understanding of the feature is.

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abbyU4GQN
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RCP view could work for next time, depending on what my company's architect will think of that, of course!...thank you!

The 'over' label could also work - but we had a structural engineer who was a bit miffed that he couldn't see all the windows on the plan. Plus, I want to make sure I know how to use the tool appropriately.

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abbyU4GQN
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upon re-reading your:

Voila! The Window geometry above the Cut Plane of the View are now visible.

My issue is that I set the cut plane to the desired height (to show the transoms), and set the view depth low enough to also see the doors underneath, but I still couldn't get the windows above and the doors below to show. So is it me, or the software that's glitching out?

thx

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barthbradley
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@abbyU4GQN wrote:

upon re-reading your:

Voila! The Window geometry above the Cut Plane of the View are now visible.

My issue is that I set the cut plane to the desired height (to show the transoms), and set the view depth low enough to also see the doors underneath, but I still couldn't get the windows above and the doors below to show. So is it me, or the software that's glitching out?

thx


 

Not following. If the Cut Plane of the View is intersecting the Transom and not the Door below it, the Window would show its Cut Representation and the Door below its Projection Representation (what you could see of it, that is).  If you are cutting through a Window directly above a Door,  then I wouldn't expect much of the Door to be seen.  Maybe some trim molding?   

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abbyU4GQN
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the original post had some screen shots of my input values that should help explain.

My understanding was that everything within range should show (I understand there will be different lineweights), even if it is 'under' another element. is that incorrect?

In my specific case, the views aren't showing interior doors on the floorplan (which do not have transoms above) but they are showing the bi-fold closet doors. Maybe it's a family issue...but the doors that are not appearing are stock revit doors, so it's a bummer if they're not built adequately.

I'm just trying to see if I am fully understanding the view depth and range, etc., since it doesn't seem to be functioning as I'd expect.

thx

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barthbradley
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I think you are talking about Symbolic Elements Visibility.  Select those elements and uncheck this box and they will be visible in the Project View when the Family is not cut but within the view range. 

 

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abbyU4GQN
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I don't have that same option, but those I do have are in the attached.

I've played around with the options, re-loaded the family, and the doors still do not appear.

It's a non-issue at this point, other than the functionality seems to be off.

Thank you anyway though!

 

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barthbradley
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That's a model element you have selected in your screenshot. I'm referring to the Symbolic line work shown in Plan View. Is that not what talking about; the Plan View display of the Door in the Project?  Go to Plan View in the Family and select the line work showing the Door in the open position.  Those are Symbolic lines.  

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