Tagging Wall Parts with Keynotes

[McKinleyBoots]

I'm currently working on a project with the majority of my exterior walls split into parts. In my elevation views, i am trying to put keynotes on each part of the wall, however, Revit is not allowing me to host the keynote to each part. i can host keynotes to other elements in the view, such as storefronts or doors, however none of the walls or parts of the walls are accepting keynotes. 

Is there a setting or something that i need to change to be able to host the keynotes to individual parts of the wall, or is there some alternate "dummy" keynote i could use to bypass hosting them to the parts while still making sure that the keynotes are added to the keynote schedule on the sheet?

[barthbradley]

Material Keynotes?

Parts Visibility is checked under View Properties and Parts have been created those Walls.  Right?  

[McKinleyBoots]

Yes, parts have been created with the walls and the views are set to "Show: Parts". However, when i try to add a keynote (either element or user), it simply won't allow me to select any of the parts as a host. Other objects in the view can be selected to host the keynote, but not the parts.

[barthbradley]

Can you use a Material Keynote?  Put the Keynote in the Material under the Identity Tab.  

[McKinleyBoots]

The material keynotes are the only keynotes that will actually host to the parts, however, since most of the parts have the same material, i can't use them to call out different keynotes. for instance, when using a material keynote to call out the difference between a panel and a reveal, it simply sees the material, which is the same, and so changing the keynote for the panel will also change the keynote for the reveal, when i instead want them to be separate keynotes. 

[ToanDN]

You can select the Part(s), create Assembly, and place Element/User Keynote on the assembly.  Otherwise, use Material keynote on parts.

[barthbradley]

Reveal? You mean Sweep. don't you?  In my world, reveals don't have a material.  

...Window Reveal?  

[McKinleyBoots]

Is there a way to do this while still allowing keynotes to be hosted to individual pieces within this assembly (ie: Reveals)?

Because that's mostly the reason why using material keynotes isn't working, because I need to be able to tag the parts and the reveals separately

[ToanDN]

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@McKinleyBoots wrote:

Is there a way to do this while still allowing keynotes to be hosted to individual pieces within this assembly (ie: Reveals)?

Because that's mostly the reason why using material keynotes isn't working, because I need to be able to tag the parts and the reveals separately

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Create an assembly for each part if you want to keynote them individually.

[McKinleyBoots]

I tried that, however you can't make an assembly out of exclusively reveals, and if you make an assembly out of the individual parts, then you can't individually select the reveals from the assembly

Is there a way to just make a dummy tag that i can point wherever and still have it report a value to the keynote schedule so that it shows up on the sheet?

[barthbradley]

What is a "Reveal" in your world?  

[ToanDN]

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@McKinleyBoots wrote:

I tried that, however you can't make an assembly out of exclusively reveals, and if you make an assembly out of the individual parts, then you can't individually select the reveals from the assembly

Is there a way to just make a dummy tag that i can point wherever and still have it report a value to the keynote schedule so that it shows up on the sheet?

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You cannot keynote Wall Reveal, whether or not you create Parts from the walls.  Use some workaround if you want to show a Reveal keynote on plan and keynote legend.

[McKinleyBoots]

What workaround would you suggest?

That's why I'm asking if it's possible to just make a dummy keynote that isn't actually hosted to anything but can still be assigned a mark value and have it report to the keynote schedule on the sheet

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

Place the Reveal User keynote on some other element than drag the leader to the reveal itself.  Or use a void family.

[McKinleyBoots]

????

Wall reveals are Wall reveals, the same thing that shows up for everyone in the second half of the drop-down menu for walls. And I never said I wanted to isolate them in a view, I said I wanted to tag them. 

Please don't reply to a comment thread if the only thing you have to add is some snarky, condescending response, thanks. 

[barthbradley]

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@McKinleyBoots wrote:

????

Wall reveals are Wall reveals, the same thing that shows up for everyone in the second half of the drop-down menu for walls. And I never said I wanted to isolate them in a view, I said I wanted to tag them. 

Please don't reply to a comment thread if the only thing you have to add is some snarky, condescending response, thanks. 

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I think you meant to direct this reply to me. I'm the one who was asking for clarification on what you meant by "Reveal".  Based on what you were saying,  it sounded like you may be using the term to describe something else.  It happens sometimes. This is an International Forum.  But like I said, in my neck of the woods, "Reveals" have no Material - or any tangible and taggable property, such as a CSI Class. 

And, by the way, you did suggest that you wanted to isolate them in the view when you said in Message #10 that you wanted to "make an assembly out of exclusively reveals".  Maybe you didn't mean an assembly view showing only  reveals - or maybe your reveals aren't like my reveals.  That's why I was asking you for clarification.  Maybe next time the person trying to help you asks for clarification, you should provide clarification.  It would make troubleshooting a whole lot more productive, as well as friendly - if you catch my drift.  

Have a better day.