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Structural Column Schedule not display certain cut lengths

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Anonymous
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Structural Column Schedule not display certain cut lengths

Anonymous
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I have modelled a steel warehouse building in revit 2022. 

I then created a structural column schedule. There, cut lengths of some members does not appear.

Also I think there is a problem with weight as well. 

How can I fix these issues?

I have attached a screenshot in the question

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Structural Column Schedule not display certain cut lengths

I have modelled a steel warehouse building in revit 2022. 

I then created a structural column schedule. There, cut lengths of some members does not appear.

Also I think there is a problem with weight as well. 

How can I fix these issues?

I have attached a screenshot in the question

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Message 2 of 10
ennujozlagam
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ennujozlagam
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refer to this previous thread and see if helps. thanks





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refer to this previous thread and see if helps. thanks





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ToanDN
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Itemized every instance or add sort by Cut Length to Sorting/grouping.

Itemized every instance or add sort by Cut Length to Sorting/grouping.

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Anonymous
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I did that. But the problem was still the same.

Then I added the "length" field instead of cut length, then the lengths are visible.

Hence, the solution is to add the "length" field instead of "cut length " in to the schedule.

But i dont know the exact reason for that.

Thanks a lot for your help.

I have a problem with the 'weight' too. I will post it in a separate thread.

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I did that. But the problem was still the same.

Then I added the "length" field instead of cut length, then the lengths are visible.

Hence, the solution is to add the "length" field instead of "cut length " in to the schedule.

But i dont know the exact reason for that.

Thanks a lot for your help.

I have a problem with the 'weight' too. I will post it in a separate thread.

Message 5 of 10
ToanDN
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I see. Try apply a Steel command such as Shorten (with 0 value) and you will see the Cut Length of those columns.

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I see. Try apply a Steel command such as Shorten (with 0 value) and you will see the Cut Length of those columns.

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Anonymous
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Sure will give a try.

What I noticed here is, the weight doesn't show up for the items where cut length is not showing.

Is it something to do with the logic of REVIT? Is there a specific way that REVIT identifies a cut length?

Please see screenshot.

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Sure will give a try.

What I noticed here is, the weight doesn't show up for the items where cut length is not showing.

Is it something to do with the logic of REVIT? Is there a specific way that REVIT identifies a cut length?

Please see screenshot.

Message 7 of 10
ToanDN
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ToanDN
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If you don't want to shorten the colums, then add a calculated value parameter to the schedule and type in this formula: if (Cut Length > 0, Cut Length, Length)

If you don't want to shorten the colums, then add a calculated value parameter to the schedule and type in this formula: if (Cut Length > 0, Cut Length, Length)

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RDAOU
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@Anonymous 

 

The principle is as follows:

 

If no Steel modifiers are applied....Revit considers that element as uncut => no Cut length or Weight are Populated; hence you use the Raw Length parameter (a case which rarely to never happens since steel elements are always cut at one point or the other either to weld a plate or a connection...etc)

 

For Raw  Uncut Steel Elements, you need to use a calculated value for the Weight = Volume/1* Density ... Volume is an available parameter and density of steel is pretty much known (either use the built in given in Revit Materials or use 490) otherwise model the connections properly and let Revit calculate for you

 

Same applies for Framing

 

Structural COlumns cut length and weight.gif

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@Anonymous 

 

The principle is as follows:

 

If no Steel modifiers are applied....Revit considers that element as uncut => no Cut length or Weight are Populated; hence you use the Raw Length parameter (a case which rarely to never happens since steel elements are always cut at one point or the other either to weld a plate or a connection...etc)

 

For Raw  Uncut Steel Elements, you need to use a calculated value for the Weight = Volume/1* Density ... Volume is an available parameter and density of steel is pretty much known (either use the built in given in Revit Materials or use 490) otherwise model the connections properly and let Revit calculate for you

 

Same applies for Framing

 

Structural COlumns cut length and weight.gif

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If you find this reply helpful kindly hit the LIKE BUTTON and if applicable please ACCEPT AS SOLUTION


Message 9 of 10
Anonymous
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You were exactly correct. I double checked my model and discovered some members where I haven't applied any connection. Thanks a lot for your generous help. It really means a lot! @RDAOU 

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You were exactly correct. I double checked my model and discovered some members where I haven't applied any connection. Thanks a lot for your generous help. It really means a lot! @RDAOU 

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Anonymous
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thanks a lot @ToanDN 

 

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thanks a lot @ToanDN 

 

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