Hi,
I'm making a wire mesh railing on an egress stair similar to this : https://pacificstair.com/products/rails/wire-mesh and am having some issues with it. See screenshots and .rvt file attached (v 2023)
This is a 3 story project but the level heights are different from 1-2 & 2-3.
Problem 1 : When the center railing turns the 180° bend the railing flattens out at the last tread before the landing instead of sloping up to the final riser.
Problem 2: I can't get the railing to continue up past the 2nd landing. This is not a multistorey stair condition.
Problem 3: The lower rail won't turn the corner like the top rail and handrail. And I can't get it to fillet. There doesn't seem to be an option for that.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
JF
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you split the railing line into 3 parts and then give two of slope and one without slope
Yes. I've been trying that. See the attached screenshots to see what happens. The rails simply will not turn the corner properly, and will not join. They break all over the place and jump up. I'm finding it simply impossible to get the railing to turn the corner like what's in the example photo here: https://pacificstair.com/sites/default/files/styles/650x750/public/pictures/gallery/wire-mesh-rail_2...
I mean that's a typical condition. Any egress stair has a handrail that will go around a U bend. How are others doing it? Have you managed to make this work ?
To have a smooth U turn for railing in Revit you will need to add some extra dimension so that the sweep transitioned from sloped to level (for the U), then back to sloped. If the U is not level, you will get what you show there. I understand the extra dimension ifs not always desired or even feasible, then it is tough call whether you model the piece in place, or use detail to take care of it.
As a side note, I work with several high-end stair fabricators, and they always recommend to add the extra dimension before the U turn as I mentioned, simply for the cleanliness of the geometry. They use Rhino3D and Solidworks to model stairs and even they have problems make conditions similar to what you show there work perfectly. That is one of those cases that it is easier to fabricate than to model.
Revit:
Rhino:
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Interesting. Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately having the railing jut out into the landing is a no-go. I'll have to fudge it somehow. The frustration is of course that Revit railings have been broken for 15 years and more. It's about time somebody in the shop fixed it. We'll be on to the next software by the time that happens tho.
If it's crucial maybe you could model them as regular sweeps. It'll be far from perfect since you cant fillet path lines that are not on the same plane, but it something at least.
Take a look at this video:
I'm so glad to read this question with the replies. I thought it was just me that didn't know how to model, but seeing Revit, and even Rhino (recent college graduates swear by), have problems creating guardrails with same issues I'm having makes me feel at least competent, although there should be a better way for both software to correctly show our design intent. I'm replying so that when a solution actually happens, it will post here and notify me. Thanks!!
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