stacked walls losing graphic settings

[Anonymous]

Hello everyone,

I hope I am naming all the commands right, as I am learning Revit in Italian 🙂

Here's the problem my classmates and I are occuring: we are modelling some stacked walls in our building, in order to have cladding only in their lower part. Then, we need to break them up as we have to give specific parameters to the various layers of the walls.

When we break them up, all the graphic settings we had given to their materials suddently disappear only in plan views. It doesn't seem to be a problem of graphic setting or overrides in the file, and also this happens to the type even if opened in other files where no graphic settings are set. It's neither a problem of level of detail and the view range it's set on standard.

Follows a picture of what is happening.

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help!

Beatrice

[barthbradley]

Looks like a medium detail view and a course detail view.  Are both screenshots using the same detail level?  

..I don't understand why you are breaking it up. Can't you just change the Cut Plane of the View?  

...wild guess: is the top of the bottom wall EXACTLY EQUAL to the View's Cut Plane Height?

[Anonymous]

Hi barthbradley,

thanks for your reply. The screenshots are taken with the same level of detail (course). Also, as mentioned in my post, we have to split them because stacked walls don't seem to accept the attribution of any specific parameters (therefore we are breaking them up and joining them again, as this way it works). Good shot about the cut plan height, but we have tried different heights, so that can't be the problem...

[barthbradley]

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@Anonymous wrote:

stacked walls don't seem to accept the attribution of any specific parameters 

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This is not strictly true. A stacked wall is comprised of two distinct Project Wall Types.  You don't need to "break" 'em up to be able to modify either Wall Type. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. What do you mean by "stacked walls don't seem to accept the attribution of any specific parameters"?  

[Anonymous]

I mean that stacked walls don't have an option for the attribution of instance parameters in their properties panel.

[barthbradley]

What Instance Parameter?  

...and why Stacked Wall if you are just going to Break 'em up?  Seems like an odd workflow.  

[Anonymous]

It's a data parameter.

We have our reasons for using stacked walls but since I don't see how they are of any relevance to the graphic problem we are occuring I wouldn't go further in explaining them... Thank you for your help, though.

Beatrice

[barthbradley]

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@Anonymous wrote:

It's a data parameter.

We have our reasons for using stacked walls but since I don't see how they are of any relevance to the graphic problem we are occuring I wouldn't go further in explaining them... Thank you for your help, though.

Beatrice

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You don't see how it is relevant???  WTF?! You explicitly said it was relevant.

"When we break them up, all the graphic settings we had given to their materials suddently disappear only in plan views."  

This is all about Stacked Walls.  No Stack Walls - no problem.  Maybe your "reasons for using stacked walls"  are flawed.  Maybe there's is a  better approach. That is what I was trying to ascertain.  

Whatever.  

[Anonymous]

hi there,

i think that using stacked walls it's way easier and faster in case you have to model something like a bathroom wall that has cladding till a certain height.

tbh i've never noticed this strange behaviour, it seems like the wall loses just the graphics appearence in it's top section view since it seems to keep these properties in elevation section and 3d view.

i honeslty don't know how to help but it seems it 100% replicable by my side too.

[ToanDN]

How height is the wall losing the details? Not the entire stack, just that one wall.

[barthbradley]

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@Anonymous wrote:

i honeslty don't know how to help but it seems it 100% replicable by my side too.

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What did you replicate? 

[Anonymous]

This basically.

if you break up a stacked wall it looses it's appearance in the top section view but them are kept in elevation section and 3d section.

[ToanDN]

How height are the walls after you broke the stack?  Are they less than 1.8 meters or 6 feet?  Bet they are.

[barthbradley]

Thanks @Anonymous, but I wasn't asking what Stacked Walls are. I was asking how you replicated what the OP described. 

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@Anonymous wrote:

if you break up a stacked wall it looses it's appearance in the top section view

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What does this mean?  

[Anonymous]

by breaking up the wall and checking the plan section.

p.s.: the link it's about breaking up stacked wall to obtain individual walls, it's not an explaination of what stacked walls  are.

[barthbradley]

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/EN....

[barthbradley]

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@Anonymous wrote:

the link it's about breaking up stacked wall to obtain individual walls, it's not an explaination of what stacked walls  are.

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Then why are you schooling me with this Link? 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU/Revit-Model/files/GUID-E3E68036-490D-482A-AE22-16A9B8F45E68-htm.html?_ga=2.195434540.1030608907.1595288307-257357043.1588289725

Again; how did you replicate what the OP is describing?  You said it was "100% replicable".  School me.  

[Anonymous]

in my case lower part 0-1500mm upper part 1500-3000

[barthbradley]

I'm confused here, @Anonymous. Are you the same person as @Anonymous?  

[barthbradley]

@ToanDN  are you you?  Or are you @Anonymous?

...or @Anonymous?