Snapping and Moving Curtain Walls

[BugFinder]

I'd like to know whether it is possible to snap a curtain wall using either the inside or outside face instead of the center line? 

All I'd like to do is put a dimension on the outside face.  I've followed the advice given in a previous post about using reference planes but once I had the curtain wall in there, I realised that I needed to dimension to the outside wall face and not what is the center line of the wall (which is the dimensions what I set my reference planes to be).

So, I tried to use the move command to move from the red mullion corner and place it on the crossing of the two reference planes under the blue circle (since the reference planes are in the correct place for the measurement required!!), but I am unable to do so - should I be able to???

Also, if I alter the dimension between two reference planes, the planes move but the curtain wall does not even though I snapped to this reference plane when creating the wall.  Is this correct normal???

Thanks once again

[ToanDN]

Use TAB generously when dimension to cycle among different witness references.

[barthbradley]

You can't tab-select to find it? 

...s**t, sorry for bumping into you again, Toan. Can't figure that one out. Mine was a reply to you.

[BugFinder]

I can get a dimension on the part but when I have it there I am unable to change it.  I've tried highlighting the wall first, highlighting areas of a wall but I am still unable to change dimension.

[barthbradley]

Are you trying to highlight the wall, to activate the dimension and be able to enter a different length value? If so, pull your dimension from corner to wall end. You'll need to tab-select until to find the correct line for the curtain wall end as well. 

Best I can do with words. Perhaps, Toan can post Screencast. 

[ToanDN]

You cannot modify a curtain wall by changing dimensions or move its sub-components.  See below, control the blue, not the red.

[barthbradley]

What do you mean by that, Toan? As I understand it, @BugFinder is just trying to pull and place a permanent dimension; one which he can use to change the length of the wall, in lieu of stretching it. 

[ToanDN]

But his dimension is to the frame components, not the curtain wall (you know the dotted line I am talking about).  

Edit the value of dimension highlighted in my screenshot can change the curtain wall length.  Edit the one (lower) I crossed out cannot.

[barthbradley]

Yes, That's exactly what I was talking about. His wall end dimension may not be place properly. It's probably to the mullion, not the actual curtain wall end - however you want to describe it. Dotted line works for me.  In any case, tab-select will find that one too. 

...oh, and the other thing I noticed in your screencast, @BugFinder, was that it didn't appear that you actually selected the wall. It looked like you selected the dimension. If it's dimension correctly, you'd select the wall and then the dimension would turn blue. 

[BugFinder]

Thanks for your responses guys but try as I might over the last few days, I still cannot seem to get the dimensions where I want them....

I think I understand your comment about using the dimensions that appear when you select the curtain wall and click on the blue dot which I've circled in red.  This enables me to change the dimension which works.  As an aside, I don't always get the dimension showing until I get hold of the blue dot and actually move it unlike your image where the dimension appears to be there when you select the curtain wall.  This is only minor as I can get by.

However, the real problem I'm facing is not the dimensioning where I've just previously described, but I want to dimension between the two green circles so that I am using the dimension on the outside face.  This is why I put a dimension and tried to change it on a previous post.  I don't want to dimension the center of the wall but between the mullion corners.

Thanks

[ToanDN]

Unfortunately, you cannot change location line of a curtain wall.  You will need to draw some reference lines from the green dot and use them to align the blue dots of the curtain wall.  Share the file and I can show you with a screencast.

[BugFinder]

Thanks @ToanDN, file attached as requested.

If you do have the time for a screencast that would be greatly appreciated.

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

I assumed you wanted to align the corners of the curtain walls to the intersections of the reference planes.

[BugFinder]

Many thanks for this @ToanDN

You make this look so simple....I'd never have got there otherwise.  Revit seems such a long way away from the ease of Autocad.  Still, the two programs are very much different for different purposes so I guess you might expect to use them differently

[pcfarnan13]

I am trying to insert a curtain wall assembly between two "pilasters."

I modeled an existing building that is being renovated, during which an existing curtain wall assembly is essentially being replaced in kind.

My existing curtain wall as modeled has no issues - phased to be demolished and is displayed graphically with no problems.

However, the new curtain wall that was modeled will not attach to the piers as it should. It extends into the adjacent pilasters (see attached screenshot).

Whether I copy and paste the existing wall into the new construction view, or even if I recreate the new curtain wall from scratch, the error remains.

Am I missing something?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.... @ToanDN

[dubaiblackoutcurtainofficial]

Yes, snapping to the outside face of curtain walls should be more intuitive, especially when you're working with precise dimensions. I've faced similar issues while aligning interior elements like Blackout Curtain Dubai installations in design renders. A workaround I use is creating custom reference lines manually for better control. Hopefully, future updates improve this tool’s flexibility.