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Shared Paremeters Question

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Anonymous
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Shared Paremeters Question

I am trying to get a better understanding of shared parameter files and how they work in project files.  I recently began work on a revit project I had not worked on in a while.  It had a door schedule that had a few parameters that looked like they had been set up as shared parameters a while back.  The question:  Where is the shared parameter file that this project file is referencing and is there an easy way to determine this when you access a project file?  Is there anyway to know by looking in the project file itself?  It is my understanding that a project file can only reference one shared parameter file at a time so if I want to add any new ones I better know where it is.

 

Thanks!

 

Mike

  

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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Manage Tab>Shared Parameters--shows path to shared parameter file. You can also Browse to your specific location if needed, or create a new shared parameter file.

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

 


@Anonymouswrote:

 The question:  Where is the shared parameter file that this project file is referencing


This will really bake your noodle...

 

The project is not actively "referencing" the Shared Parameter File. It’s looking for GUID numbers that are identical within the project. For instance, you can have multiple families in a project that have been created from multiple different Shared Parameter files. All those families could have the same named Shared Parameter, but those same named parameters will have different GUID numbers.  

 

For example: your project is using Shared Parameter File Alpha which has in it a parameter named “Width” – and your project contains two chairs; both having a “Width” parameter – but not sharing the same one.

 

Chair1.rfa was created using Shared Parameter File Bravo and pulled from it a parameter named “Width”.

 

Chair2.rfa was created using Shared Parameter File Charlie and pulled from it a parameter named “Width”.

 

In your Project schedule, “Width” will be listed twice under “Available Fields”. Neither one of them are the “Width” in your project’s Shared Parameter File Alpha.  One is Bravo “Width” and the other is Charlie “Width”.

 

Blue Pill or Red Pill?  Your choice. Smiley (zwinkernd)

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Nice.  It sounds like you are saying the following:  The function of the shared parameter file is simply to ascribe the same GUID number for a parameter in a family to a parameter that is listed a project.  Is this an oversimplification?

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barthbradley
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My analogy would be: “Those people that took the Red Pill produced by Merck Pharmaceuticals stand over there.  Those people that took the Red Pill produced by Pfizer Pharmaceuticals stand over there.  The rest of you that don’t already have a Red Pill, we’ll provide you a Generic one from our current vendor; Michael J Cobb Pharmaceuticals.”   

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Hmmmm...Does this means that even if I work on the project file in another location and i decide to edit a family with shared parameters from inside this project, I don't need to send my shared parameter file along with it since the GUID of the family and the project have already been synced up?  

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ToanDN
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@Anonymous wrote:

Hmmmm...Does this means that even if I work on the project file in another location and i decide to edit a family with shared parameters from inside this project, I don't need to send my shared parameter file along with it since the GUID of the family and the project have already been synced up?  


No.  Until you need to create brand new families from scratch.  However, you can still Save As from an existing family to inherit the existing shared parameters.

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barthbradley
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@Anonymouswrote:

Hmmmm...Does this means that even if I work on the project file in another location and i decide to edit a family with shared parameters from inside this project, I don't need to send my shared parameter file along with it since the GUID of the family and the project have already been synced up?  

If you want to "sync" them up for reporting, you'll need to edit them so they are pulling their shared parameters from the same SP file. It doesn't matter which SP file, just as long as it’s the same SP file. 

 

In my analogy using the two chairs; both are reporting "width", but one got its definition from Bravo and the other from Charlie.  Make 'em both reference the same SP File so only one "width" parameter (instead of two) will show up in the schedule for both of them.  You could even point them both to a completely different SP File (e.g. Alpha) that has another "width" parameter field defined. But, no matter where they originally got their "width" parameter from; the chairs will still report "width".  They don't need to carry the SP File with them to do that. 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I probably used the wrong terminology when I said "synced up."  Sorry.  I just meant that if I edited a family from a project file when working on it in new location (e.g. my home) the project file would still recognize the family parameters as "schedulable" even if the original location of the shared parameter file was missing.  I think you used the term "reporting" in your most recent explanation.  I have used parameters for a reporting a few times in the past but have found them (rightly or wrongly) relatively unutilized for my present work.  Were you using the term "reporting" synonymously with "schedulable."  So much terminology.  Forgive me if I'm getting twisted in knots around all this.  Shared parameters feels like one of those concepts I've been slow to fully understand but really key to truly unlock all the benefits of Revit.

 

Thanks in advance for all your help.

 

Mike

 

 

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