Set out dimensions to come from inside of walls

Set out dimensions to come from inside of walls

woodstim
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Set out dimensions to come from inside of walls

woodstim
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Hi,

 

When I'm modelling a floorplan, I want to enter my pre measured dimensions from wall to wall. But Revit seems to want to measure from the centre of the walls. So I have to figure out the wall thickness and take it into account to get the wall to wall dimension. Can this be set up to go from inside wall to inside wall. I'm not meaning the dimensioning style for a finished drawing, but the dimension Revit produces when setting out walls etc and you can enter your length into.

 

See screenshot attached.

 

Thanks,

 

Tim.

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Ilic.Andrej
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What you re writing of is called temporary dimension. To set up a temporary dimension, all you have to do is click on one of its ends, move around the wall and click Tab. This will toggle between the center of the wall, the exterior and the interior face of the wall. The approach is the same for other categories.

 

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Andrej Ilić

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woodstim
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Thanks. This seems tedious to do every time. Is there a way to set it up to default to inside of wall?

Tim.
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barthbradley
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Find at Manage=>Additional Settings=>Temporary Dimensions

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ToanDN
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Temporary Dimension settings.

 

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barthbradley
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I wish I thought of that.  

 

Oh wait; I did.

 

Nice repackaging -- and coat-tail riding.  Again.  

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ToanDN
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25-Funny-Salty-meme-6

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Ilic.Andrej
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Hey guys, stop arguing! We can do this! Maybe this is a solution!

 

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Andrej Ilić

phonetical: ændreɪ ilich
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barthbradley
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...or, if you can't beat 'em -- join 'em.  Change Plan Note.

 

ALL DIMENSIONS ARE TO FACE OF STUD UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE.

 

ALL DIMENSIONS ARE TO CENTER OF FINISHED WALL UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE.  

 

Smiley Wink

 

...always seemed strange to me that the default is Wall Center. Autodesk has obviously never laid a chalk line in it's life. 

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Anonymous
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@barthbradley wrote:

...always seemed strange to me that the default is Wall Center. Autodesk has obviously never laid a chalk line in it's life. 


Was like that before Autodesk I believe...

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barthbradley
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@Anonymous wrote:

@barthbradley wrote:

...always seemed strange to me that the default is Wall Center. Autodesk has obviously never laid a chalk line in it's life. 


Was like that before Autodesk I believe...


 

 

What was?  

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Anonymous
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The temporary dimension default...was like that before Autodesk bought Revit.

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loboarch
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@barthbradley wrote:

 

 

...always seemed strange to me that the default is Wall Center. Autodesk has obviously never laid a chalk line in it's life. 


I have a feeling this might be regional preferences. I have heard some people swear by centerlines, others by finish face, others by face of one side of stud, others both sides nominal, etc...

 

When i was on a job site a long time ago as a young intern Architect (20 or more yrs now) I asked the job site supervisor how it was "supposed" to be done. he told me he does not really care as long as it all works out and adds up correctly. 



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barthbradley
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I’m talking about multi-layered wall types. I can understand core face and core center wall justifications on placement.  I can even understand finished face wall justification on placement (think minimum clearance codes).  What is odd to me is finished wall center on placement as the default. Who in the AEC community has ever out walls that way?  

   

But I will say, the Centerline justification is critical if you need to flip wall orientations after laying them out “properly” – especially if you’ve pulled permanent dimensions from core face, core center or finish face.  Maybe that's Autodesk's reasoning behind the Centerline default.  

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abposlovni
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Tab before the click switches the reference to the interior face, but there's no way to make that the permanent default — so across a whole plan it stays per-dimension work. We actually built a plugin for the annotation side of this:

 

Auto Room Dimensions generates interior dimension strings for entire rooms at once.. It won't change how Revit sets out walls, it just removes the dimensioning afterwards.

 

I'm the developer — you can try it for free at archplug.com.

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firas007noori
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Quick answer! hit tab while aiming to the wall edge will allow you to select the wall face instead of its center

Firas Noori

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devashish7
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Yes, you can do this. The key is the Location Line setting when you're placing the walls. Before drawing the wall, look at the Options Bar and change Location Line from Wall Centerline to either:

 

  • Finish Face: Interior, if your measurements are taken from finished inside face to finished inside face, or

  • Core Face: Interior, if your measurements are taken to the structural/core face.

Then draw your first wall. When you place the next wall, Revit's temporary dimensions should reference the selected location line rather than the wall centerline, so you can type your measured clear distance directly.

For walls you've already created, select the wall and change its Location Line in Properties. Revit will reposition the wall around that reference while maintaining the location line.

 

For your example, if the 2700 mm measurement is the clear internal dimension, I'd use Finish Face: Interior and enter 2700 directly.

 

Also check which side of the wall is considered the interior when drawing. If it's flipped, press Spacebar while placing the wall (or use the flip arrows afterward).

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