Rotating project north does nothing

[Anonymous]

Hi all and thanks in advance for your help. 

Typically we start our projects with Project North orientation as we would like it on our documentation sheets, however one of our clients has recently requested that we rotate the project north 180 degrees for reasons that I do not want to get into. We are issuing DD this week so due to all possible implications, we are going to issue with the original Project North. As a courtesy to the client, however, we want to create another reference model with their preferred (rotated) project north after the issue to use alongside the issued model. 

I detached the model yesterday to run the test to see what the implications would be when rotating project north. I went to Manage > Position > Rotate Project North as I usually would and chose 180 degrees option. First it took about 1.5 hours to process; after which it just loaded back with the old Project North. No errors, no other warnings came up; I didn't have to accept or cancel anything. I repeated the process three times, auditing while detaching; trying different rotation angles (90 degrees clockwise; 90 degrees counterclockwise); unloading linked referenced (CAD and Revit) as some other posts have suggested; I also accepted primaries on all design options and cleaned up views in the browser - all with the same result. I thought I was missing something so I rotated project north on a different detached model for a different project, as well as within our detached template, which was used to set-up the project in question, and everything worked as expected this time. 

Did anyone else experience a similar behavior? What could be causing this and how can I go about solving this issue?

[ToanDN]

Do you use Scope Boxes to frame your Views? Views with Scope Box will not have True North or Project North rotation available. It is set by the scope box rotation.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your reply. There are scope boxes in the project but the views are not framed to the scope box in this instance. 

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous

were you using shared coordinates and the model u have acquired coordinates from another (ie; on a shared site?) if yes

1. Try to re-orient on the master file then publish to this one

2. Or if you want to keep it detached to test with; unshare coordinates/site  and/or set the models site back to the default internal one or a new unshared one

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your suggestion.

No, not really; this model is the master model. 

[RDAOU]

Unless you prefer to send a ticket to Autodesk; maybe you can share the offending model for someone to have a look at it...you can delete the geometries in it and purge families out as it is detached for testing

[chrisplyler]

Is it possible that the view you were in when you used the Rotate Project North tool, and in which you saw no results, was set to True North? Obviously you would not see any such change if you're in a True North view.

[Anonymous]

No; that's the first thing that I checked. The view is set to project north; I have checked other views as well...

[chrisplyler]

I figured - because I mean, duh, right? - but had to ask.

[michael.coviello]

Hello @Anonymous,

After you rotate project north, does anything in the model actually rotate?  I am wondering if there are specific elements that do not rotate.

In your detached model, as a test, do you have the same results if you rotate True North? 

Please let us know if you are able to share a model and journal file. 

[kap-bimsupport]

I've got the same problem, and still hunting for a solution.  The model is question is acting as the master, and we have acquired coordinates from this model.  We're now contemplating rotating project north (on the master) to make it easier for sheet set up on our CD set.  When I hit rotate project north in any direction, something is processed very quickly, then nothing stops, and nothing has changed.  It literally seems like it is doing nothing, or cancelling it self without saying why.

For the OP did you end up finding a solution?  

[lbrownPG57Z]

I'm having the same problem. No shared coordinates, no links, no scope boxes, looking at a view set to project north. 

[michael.coviello]

Hello @lbrownPG57Z   
I found this article which may help you. 

Unable to rotate Project North in Revit | Revit | Autodesk Knowledge Network

If this does not help, Can you post the model and/or create a support ticket?

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