Rotate Project North causes many warnings

[mairh_tsek]

Hello all,

I need your advice.

I have a well developed model and I want to Rotate the Project North.

I read many articles so I found as the best approach to create a Group all the elements of the model > Rotate Project North > Ungroup.

During this process I get a lot of warnings (see the word file)

When I complete it, with a quick look I notice that only a family doesn't display correctly. The rest of the model seems ok. I was expecting,  after all of these warnings,  to get a worst model.

Is it better just to turn the Crop View in all the sheets in order to avoid these warnings?

Thank you in advance!

[loboarch]

If you do it without grouping the model maybe you will get fewer errors?  Seems like a lot of them are coming from the grouping I have a feeling.

[ToanDN]

What is the reason you need to rotate project north? Wouldn't rotate true north in the other direction accomplished the same goal?

[mairh_tsek]

Here are the warnings if I directly Rotate the Project North (see word file)

Also there are some Generic Models and Structural Connections that are not in the correct place. The rest of the model seems ok.

When I start the project I had rotated the crop region in order to have horizontaly the plan. But I realised that the correct is to Rotate the Project North. This is why I am trying now to Rotate the Project North.

I don't want to Rotate the True North because after the Shared coordinates that I did it is in the right position.

Thank you!

[barthbradley]

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@mairh_tsek wrote:

I don't want to Rotate the True North because after the Shared coordinates that I did it is in the right position.

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What? Rotate to True North is nothing more than rotating the view. It doesn't move the shared coordinate system. 

...I'm referring to "Angle to True North"

[Anonymous]

Yeah, that is going to happen when you rotate the project north if they were straight to start off with...

They can be ignored.

[ToanDN]

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@mairh_tsek wrote:

When I start the project I had rotated the crop region in order to have horizontaly the plan. But I realised that the correct is to Rotate the Project North. This is why I am trying now to Rotate the Project North.

I don't want to Rotate the True North because after the Shared coordinates that I did it is in the right position.

Thank you!

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I would keep the Project North unchanged and rotate the linked site model to match it, then acquire shared coordinates AFTER that.  That is what shared coordinates are for; keep your model straight and still align with the site.

Using Project North to dictate the orientation of your views is common but not necessary a must.  Think about a building has wings point different direction and you need to create a plan for each wing straight.  How many Porject Norths do you need?  Use scope boxes to frame the views and rotate them.

[mairh_tsek]

Sorry for the questions but I am trying to understand correctly..

' I would keep the Project North unchanged and rotate the linked site model to match it, then acquire shared coordinates AFTER that.  That is what shared coordinates are for; keep your model straight and still align with the site. ' 

If I keep the Project North unchanged it means that my building will remain vertically. (Because it is vertically right now...and in order to have it horizontally I just rotated the crop region in each view).

I did the reverse approach...I create a site model georeference (Acquired coordinates from .dwg) >  link the building > Shared Coordinates.

So when I opened the building file I had the True North correctly (like it should be in reality the orientation of the building) and when I switched from the Properties to the Project North the building is Vertically.

I would like to have it Horizontally in the sheets. So what it is better to do:

1. Keep rotate the crop regions in each view?

2. Rotate the Project North  ( Manage> Position > Roatet Project North) that causes many warnings.

P.S. It is the first time that I checked what the scope box does. Until now in order to rotate manually the Views I used Crop region. 

What is preferable?

Thank you for you time!